What do you consider "raw" denim to mean?
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you use a lot of words neph, what you mean about 21oz denim?
It was a pre bedtime post, and I have a rule, “Why use one word when you can use 259?”
It’s edited for clarity now but my point was that great denim doesn’t have to be raw to be excellent, unique etc and the 21oz is a good example of that. It was tonnes of character despite it’s smooth even face, heavy sanforisation and fade retardant treatment. Hell, the SB denim isn’t even selvedge and doesn’t fade and is still more interesting than some Cone Mills denim I’ve owned.
I agree 100%.
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I have a thing for slubby, irregular denim….. Sorry! lol
U find loomstate to be less slubby and irregular? Don’t be sorry.
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I'm in the camp of people who dislike the unpredictable nature of loomstate.
How do you feel about the terminology? Raw=loomstate?
I think the terminology is accurate
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Oh ok
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Please make it raw with ample thighs for us 634 guys.
But not with the 16 cause I already have that one. 
I really fucked up not getting that yenim in 34 when I had the chance didn’t I? 
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Raw=hasn't touched water.
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Heddels disagrees https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/one-wash-denim-still-raw/
This was posted on Jan 10th
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16oz vintage raw in 888 cut…....i’m in .
Heddels
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Heddels disagrees https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/one-wash-denim-still-raw/
This was posted on Jan 10th
That was what caused this thread to be started. I have written to Nick at Heddels and told him that the article is bullshit…
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I don’t get it either. Thatndoejst make any sense
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Heddels is wrong more often than it is right, IMO.
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Heddels disagrees https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/one-wash-denim-still-raw/
This was posted on Jan 10th
That was what caused this thread to be started. I have written to Nick at Heddels and told him that the article is bullshit…
I kinda figured that was the cause. And yes, it’s bullshit
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Heddels disagrees https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/one-wash-denim-still-raw/
This was posted on Jan 10th
That was what caused this thread to be started. I have written to Nick at Heddels and told him that the article is bullshit…
Amen
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To me raw is denim that has no more than one initial soak before hitting shelves and has zero pre-distressing. When I think of raw denim I think of a jean that looks the way it does because the wearer got them to that point not because someone sandblasted them before sending them to the retailers.
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i want to throw this log on the fire…. @Giles
https://www.ironheart.co.uk/bottoms/ih-666s-19l-v2.html
these are one washed yet you call them raw?
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Where does he call them raw? Are you referring to the fact that they are unsanforized?
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In the bloody title! 19oz raw denim.
