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    What do you consider "raw" denim to mean?

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    • neph93N
      neph93
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      @gaseousclay:

      I'm in the camp of people who dislike the unpredictable nature of loomstate.

      How do you feel about the terminology? Raw=loomstate?

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

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      • manufc10M
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        @neph93:

        @madmonday:

        you use a lot of words neph, what you mean about 21oz denim?

        It was a pre bedtime post, and I have a rule, “Why use one word when you can use 259?”

        It’s edited for clarity now but my point was that great denim doesn’t have to be raw to be excellent, unique etc and the 21oz is a good example of that. It was tonnes of character despite it’s smooth even face, heavy sanforisation and fade retardant treatment. Hell, the SB denim isn’t even selvedge and doesn’t fade and is still more interesting than some Cone Mills denim I’ve owned.

        I agree 100%.

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        • Matty123M
          Matty123
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          @UnTucked:

          I have a thing for slubby, irregular denim….. Sorry! lol

          U find loomstate to be less slubby and irregular? Don’t be sorry.

          Maybe so. Maybe not

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          • UnTuckedU
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            @Matty123:

            @UnTucked:

            I have a thing for slubby, irregular denim….. Sorry! lol

            U find loomstate to be less slubby and irregular? Don’t be sorry.

            I haven't handled any loomstate denim, actually. I was just referring to my love of PBJ….

            In search of:
            IHV-04, med.
            IHSH-185, large
            IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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            • gaseousclayG
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              @neph93:

              @gaseousclay:

              I'm in the camp of people who dislike the unpredictable nature of loomstate.

              How do you feel about the terminology? Raw=loomstate?

              I think the terminology is accurate

              WTB:
              IHSH-129 size L (blue)
              IHSH-19

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              • Matty123M
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                Oh ok

                Maybe so. Maybe not

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                • Ponyboy312P
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                  Please make it raw with ample thighs for us 634 guys.  😛  But not with the 16 cause I already have that one.  😃 I really fucked up not getting that yenim in 34 when I had the chance didn’t I? 😢

                  colonelclegg: if you threw up on them just wash them dude, especially if your not sure if its your puke…......

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                  • piranhaP
                    piranha
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                    Raw=hasn't touched water.

                    Instagram: djdonniepiranhie

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                    • Matty123M
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                      Heddels disagrees https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/one-wash-denim-still-raw/

                      This was posted on Jan 10th

                      Maybe so. Maybe not

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                      • AlexA
                        Alex
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                        ???

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                        • Megatron1505M
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                          16oz vintage raw in 888 cut…....i’m in .

                          Heddels  😃

                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                          • GilesG
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                            @Matty123:

                            Heddels disagrees https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/one-wash-denim-still-raw/

                            This was posted on Jan 10th

                            That was what caused this thread to be started.  I have written to Nick at Heddels and told him that the article is bullshit…

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • Matty123M
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                              I don’t get it either. Thatndoejst make any sense

                              Maybe so. Maybe not

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                              • ChrisC
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                                Heddels is wrong more often than it is right, IMO.

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                                • DionD
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                                  Funny enough it used to be called Rawr Denim before changing its name to Heddels.

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                                  • Matty123M
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                                    @Giles:

                                    @Matty123:

                                    Heddels disagrees https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/one-wash-denim-still-raw/

                                    This was posted on Jan 10th

                                    That was what caused this thread to be started.  I have written to Nick at Heddels and told him that the article is bullshit…

                                    I kinda figured that was the cause. And yes, it’s bullshit

                                    Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                    • Ponyboy312P
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                                      @Giles:

                                      @Matty123:

                                      Heddels disagrees https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/one-wash-denim-still-raw/

                                      This was posted on Jan 10th

                                      That was what caused this thread to be started.  I have written to Nick at Heddels and told him that the article is bullshit…

                                      Amen

                                      colonelclegg: if you threw up on them just wash them dude, especially if your not sure if its your puke…......

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                                      • BloodnThunderB
                                        BloodnThunder
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                                        To me raw is denim that has no more than one initial soak before hitting shelves and has zero pre-distressing.  When I think of raw denim I think of a jean that looks the way it does because the wearer got them to that point not because someone sandblasted them before sending them to the retailers.

                                        IG: Shadesofindig0

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                                        • Matty123M
                                          Matty123
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                                          i want to throw this log on the fire…. @Giles

                                          https://www.ironheart.co.uk/bottoms/ih-666s-19l-v2.html

                                          these are one washed yet you call them raw?  😉 😶

                                          Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                          • manufc10M
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                                            Where does he call them raw?  Are you referring to the fact that they are unsanforized?

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