What do you consider "raw" denim to mean?
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Most people don't like the unpredictable nature of loomstate, therefore underrated IMO.
I'm in the camp of people who dislike the unpredictable nature of loomstate. I like the guesswork being taken out of having to figure out sizing/shrinkage, especially if you're dropping big $.
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Ditto…
Never owned a pair, and likely never will.....Closest I've gotten is my Oni "Secret denim" (unsanforized)...
Shockingly enough, "the guy who throws all clothes in the washer and dryer all willy nilly" is extremely apprehensive about washing these jeans using ANY methods. They will likely stay truly raw (And eventually, ripe) forever.
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Ditto…
Never owned a pair, and likely never will.....Closest I've gotten is my Oni "Secret denim" (unsanforized)...
Shockingly enough, "the guy who throws all clothes in the washer and dryer all willy nilly" is extremely apprehensive about washing these jeans using ANY methods. They will likely stay truly raw (And eventually, ripe) forever.
Et tu Bruté?
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I'm in the camp of people who dislike the unpredictable nature of loomstate.
How do you feel about the terminology? Raw=loomstate?
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you use a lot of words neph, what you mean about 21oz denim?
It was a pre bedtime post, and I have a rule, “Why use one word when you can use 259?”
It’s edited for clarity now but my point was that great denim doesn’t have to be raw to be excellent, unique etc and the 21oz is a good example of that. It was tonnes of character despite it’s smooth even face, heavy sanforisation and fade retardant treatment. Hell, the SB denim isn’t even selvedge and doesn’t fade and is still more interesting than some Cone Mills denim I’ve owned.
I agree 100%.
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I have a thing for slubby, irregular denim….. Sorry! lol
U find loomstate to be less slubby and irregular? Don’t be sorry.
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I'm in the camp of people who dislike the unpredictable nature of loomstate.
How do you feel about the terminology? Raw=loomstate?
I think the terminology is accurate
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Oh ok
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Please make it raw with ample thighs for us 634 guys.
But not with the 16 cause I already have that one. 
I really fucked up not getting that yenim in 34 when I had the chance didn’t I? 
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Raw=hasn't touched water.
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Heddels disagrees https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/one-wash-denim-still-raw/
This was posted on Jan 10th
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16oz vintage raw in 888 cut…....i’m in .
Heddels
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Heddels disagrees https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/one-wash-denim-still-raw/
This was posted on Jan 10th
That was what caused this thread to be started. I have written to Nick at Heddels and told him that the article is bullshit…
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I don’t get it either. Thatndoejst make any sense
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Heddels is wrong more often than it is right, IMO.
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Heddels disagrees https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/one-wash-denim-still-raw/
This was posted on Jan 10th
That was what caused this thread to be started. I have written to Nick at Heddels and told him that the article is bullshit…
I kinda figured that was the cause. And yes, it’s bullshit
