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    • ARNCA
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      @mclaincausey Bronze Age life would probably be very different to what we expect from “ancient Greece” as we’re going back maybe another 500 years or so (this is an extension of @Nick’s point). Life, dress, armour, social structure would not be what we’ve been conditioned to expect. I guess this is one of the things Nolan had to address. Would something more authentic to the original period look more wrong to us than a blend of our expectations of ancient Greece and modern sensibilities? Maybe authenticity is the wrong standard for a story that’s been retold and reinterpreted so many times.

      I probably should see it before sharing further thoughts!

      “His thoughts were red thoughts and his teeth were white.“

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      • NickN
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        @mclaincausey Wait for Elon Musk to find out the dynamics and details of Spartans between them, their wife and their lover.

        The imagination is the golden pathway to everywhere - Terence McKenna

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        • mclaincauseyM
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          @ARNC yep! I mean it’s Bronze Age occurrences versus Iron Age retelling. Homer himself had anachronisms in the original source material. He was recording (with poetic license) oral traditions from centuries ago, through an intervening dark age of civilizational collapse. In fact I shouldn’t have used the term “city states.”

          So we shouldn’t treat The Odyssey in any form as historiography. Never was.

          Think it, be it.

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            @Nick 🤣

            Think it, be it.

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            • endoE
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              @mclaincausey said in Movies:

              we shouldn’t treat The Odyssey in any form as historiography. Never was

              nor Homer himself

              si tacuisses

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              • NickN
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                Historically accurate says Musk (sorry, last time I mention him). Someone should also inform him about Greek port towns in ancient Greece and how cosmopolitan they were and how inclusive that particular civilisation was*.

                *hopefully I have this right

                The imagination is the golden pathway to everywhere - Terence McKenna

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                • mclaincauseyM
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                  @endo true. Homer “himself or themselves,” I should have said.

                  Think it, be it.

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                  • MattM
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                    D’oh!

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                    • WhiskeySandwichW
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                      @endo The white teeth hadn't even crossed my mind, and I don't think its any more significant than the casting.

                      I'm also pretty sure Circe misjudged, and she knew it because she did change them back. That was a misconception she conceded to. I think individual shitty behavior is all too often seen as the buzzword "toxic masculinity".

                      As I took it: the main theme of the movie was to not hastily act without considering the consequences of decisions made without foresight. This was applied to Circe, and every other trial in the movie. Even Odysseus's decision to go to Troy. I think this also aligns with the intent of the original story, which was the Gods reaction to Odysseus's atheism and hubris. He learned his lesson and atoned.

                      The only real problem with Odyssey the movie was that everybody brought preconceptions into it. The rest is quibbles, of which i have a few, but nothings perfect. Things dont have to be perfect to get enjoyment out of them.

                      "The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                      -Seneca

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                      • NickN
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                        Nothing is truly perfect. It's the imperfections that we're attracted to.

                        Works for movies or Hinge.

                        The imagination is the golden pathway to everywhere - Terence McKenna

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                        • WhiskeySandwichW
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                          Shall we bring up Dwayne Johnson's look in the live action Moana?

                          "The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                          -Seneca

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                          • flannel slutF
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                            Got around to “Obsession” last night. The lead actor constantly pissed me off (maybe this was intentional?) but the actress who plays Nicki was incredible. Either way, lived up to the hype for me.
                            Might be that the horror/thriller genre has the most original writing these days.

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                            • FelixKF
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                              Yea, Obession was brilliant! It definitely lived up to the hype. The actor who played Nicki (Inde Navarrette) was the star of the film - really unsettling performance...

                              She only made $20k from it, which is a shame since it made $450m at the box office, but it did have a tiny budget in fairness

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                                @FelixK said in Movies:

                                She only made $20k from it, which is a shame since it made $450m at the box office

                                Dish some of the love out dudes.......

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • BridgerB
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                                  1978 adult film Debbie Does Dallas

                                  Budget was $50,000
                                  Revenue in excess of $1 billion
                                  Bambi Woods (Debbie) was paid $400 flat fee

                                  Sounds like Dallas did Debbie

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                                  • I
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                                    Great to see someone make a highbrow contribution after all the chatter about The Odyssey!

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                                      • MattM
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                                        She only made $20k but she’s everywhere all the time now. This movie will make her very rich when all is said and done.

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                                          I’m trying to get Katie to watch it with me but she’s won’t budge. She’s escared.

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                                          • IH-GARYI
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                                            I wasn't sure when I first read about the upcoming 'I Play Rocky' movie, but the trailer looks real interesting - Anthony Ippolito looks like a good choice to play Sly!

                                            My contribution, to urban blues…

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