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[ARNC]

@mclaincausey Bronze Age life would probably be very different to what we expect from “ancient Greece” as we’re going back maybe another 500 years or so (this is an extension of @Nick’s point). Life, dress, armour, social structure would not be what we’ve been conditioned to expect. I guess this is one of the things Nolan had to address. Would something more authentic to the original period look more wrong to us than a blend of our expectations of ancient Greece and modern sensibilities? Maybe authenticity is the wrong standard for a story that’s been retold and reinterpreted so many times.

I probably should see it before sharing further thoughts!

[Nick]

@mclaincausey Wait for Elon Musk to find out the dynamics and details of Spartans between them, their wife and their lover.

[mclaincausey]

@ARNC yep! I mean it’s Bronze Age occurrences versus Iron Age retelling. Homer himself had anachronisms in the original source material. He was recording (with poetic license) oral traditions from centuries ago, through an intervening dark age of civilizational collapse. In fact I shouldn’t have used the term “city states.”

So we shouldn’t treat The Odyssey in any form as historiography. Never was.

[mclaincausey]

@Nick

[endo]

@mclaincausey said in Movies:

we shouldn’t treat The Odyssey in any form as historiography. Never was

nor Homer himself

[Nick]

Historically accurate says Musk (sorry, last time I mention him). Someone should also inform him about Greek port towns in ancient Greece and how cosmopolitan they were and how inclusive that particular civilisation was*.

*hopefully I have this right

[mclaincausey]

@endo true. Homer “himself or themselves,” I should have said.

[Matt]

D’oh!

[WhiskeySandwich]

@endo The white teeth hadn't even crossed my mind, and I don't think its any more significant than the casting.

I'm also pretty sure Circe misjudged, and she knew it because she did change them back. That was a misconception she conceded to. I think individual shitty behavior is all too often seen as the buzzword "toxic masculinity".

As I took it: the main theme of the movie was to not hastily act without considering the consequences of decisions made without foresight. This was applied to Circe, and every other trial in the movie. Even Odysseus's decision to go to Troy. I think this also aligns with the intent of the original story, which was the Gods reaction to Odysseus's atheism and hubris. He learned his lesson and atoned.

The only real problem with Odyssey the movie was that everybody brought preconceptions into it. The rest is quibbles, of which i have a few, but nothings perfect. Things dont have to be perfect to get enjoyment out of them.

[Nick]

Nothing is truly perfect. It's the imperfections that we're attracted to.

Works for movies or Hinge.

[WhiskeySandwich]

Shall we bring up Dwayne Johnson's look in the live action Moana?