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    • MotyM
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      Tudor BB Pro

      Courage is resistance to fear, it is mastery of fear, not absence of fear

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      • mclaincauseyM
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        I like the Tudor ("riveted" bracelet aside), the Oris, and the bezel of the lefty GMT.

        I like what TAG is doing design-wise with their divers these days, even if I feel the solar one looks cheap (which, if it IS cheap, is acceptable).

        It is remarkable how I don't think I've ever seen a Hublot I remotely enjoyed. They're really good at designing watches I hate.

        Think it, be it.

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        • JDelageJ
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          I love the fact that Rolex was crazy enough to launch a lefty. It's going to be just as un-obtainable as the rest, but it's a fun thing.

          I love the Cartier Tank Chinoise.

          For me, the most unexpected new release is the Grand Seiko $350k constant force tourbillon. This is a very rare complication, which I have mostly seen made by super tiny outfits (Romain Gauthier and the like).

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          • mclaincauseyM
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            Wow, +/- 0.5s / day on a fully mechanical movement. Is that a record?

            Think it, be it.

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            • henry_davidH
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              GS majorly leveling up there, @JDelage. I'm impressed. I was also sorry to see some colorful dials in the OP line discontinued at the 36mm and 41mm sizes.

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              • ChrisC
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                The lefty GMT seems unusually gimmicky for Rolex.

                That Oris with the grey dial is fantastic, though I'm disappointed they aren't using their signature red rotor for it. Maybe with the full production models that will change?

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                • JDelageJ
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                  Interesting concept watch from Cartier, the "Masse Mysterieuse", where the movement is the rotor… It uses 4 internal sapphire disks to connect the hands, crown, and caliber.

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                  • MotyM
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                    Very nice article on Hondinkee about Tudor BB Pro

                    https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-tudor-black-bay-pro-2?fbclid=IwAR2z8bRQPFM46iCAsF3hjOs4HA3ldxQo2KnqhXdQyvD3bHQcPrNDv1m15X0

                    Courage is resistance to fear, it is mastery of fear, not absence of fear

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                    • JDelageJ
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                      Yeah, that Black Bay Pro looks like a category (GMT) killer. Sub $4k for a true GMT with Tudor's pedigree, it's going to be hard to beat. It's too tall at 14.6mm, but it's very attractive when compared to the new Grand Seiko GMTs at $8k+ (though to be fair the GS are 1/2mm thinner and use Spring Drive). I also love the Explorer II vibe.

                      Speaking of Grand Seiko, they just released 2 small hand-wound pieces in light blue or dark green, sub $5k, which is getting rare for GS. They're available for order now and should ship next month.

                      https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/grand-seiko-elegance-sbgw283gsbgw285g

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        The Cartier is amazing–something novel, creative, but also attractive.

                        Hearing the Moon Swatches' straps are staining wrists 😃

                        Think it, be it.

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                        • GilesG
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                          @JDelage:

                          When an article has to show off a Rolex to demonstrate by contrast how poorly finished a movement is, it says a lot…

                          Possibly one of my favourite sentences ever….

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • GilesG
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                            @JDelage:

                            Speaking of Grand Seiko, they just released 2 small hand-wound pieces in light blue or dark green, sub $5k, which is getting rare for GS. They're available for order now and should ship next month.

                            https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/grand-seiko-elegance-sbgw283gsbgw285g

                            Those are beautiful…..

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • GraemeG
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                              I like the Cartier Masse Mysterieuse a lot too.

                              The other quirky complication that caught my eye was the Hermès Arceau Le Temps Voyageur Dual Time Zone, which has the subdial move around the main dial to indicate the time zone.

                              It's definitely cooler than the Rolex GMT-Master, and cheaper than buying one on the secondary market. 😃

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                              • JDelageJ
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                                That Hermes watch is very interesting. I've been looking for a good traveller's GMT and they're actually pretty rare, outside of Rolex & Omega (GS are of course excellent, but quite thick). I wonder how thick that Hermes is. It is not cheap in steel ($23k), but the premium for platinum is very low ($6k more to $29k). I wonder if it's because the Pt model is DLC coated and therefore doesn't require the finicky finish that Pt is known for.

                                I do like how the Paris time zone is shown as "24 FBG", which is for 24 Rue du Faubourg Saint-Honoré, the address of the original Hermes boutique.

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  There’s that fucking 6 again from Hermes. All else is concentrically oriented but that digit. I understand the ambiguity of that particular digit when upside down but it’s clear from the context of the surrounding numerals what it is, and the way they orient it it looks more like a 9 than a 6. Really triggers my OCD.

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                  • GraemeG
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                                    @JDelage there's a video of the Hermès that Revolution posted, which might give a better idea. It also mentions that the only platinum parts of the black watch are the case back and lugs, hence the lower than expected premium.

                                    I also saw this profile shot in Hodinkee's article. It does look a bit chunky, but maybe not too bad.

                                    Depends if you can live with the ambiguous six or nine, unlike @mclaincausey! 😃

                                    I also like the IWC Timezoner in Ceratanium as a travel watch, but that's a shirt-unfriendly 15 mm thick. I got to try one on a few weeks ago.

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                                    • JDelageJ
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                                      It's lovely but it does look thick. Since it's quite beyond my means, it's not an issue.

                                      I'm not a fan of world timers. I like simple 2-zone GMTs. The best of the modern renditions might be the Explorer II, but there are a lot of options in the 2nd hand market.

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                                      • JDelageJ
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                                        On a watch forum, someone already purchased the Tudor BBP, and showed a comparison with their Rolex GMT:

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                                        • DansD
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                                          Can anyone recommend a solid Pepsi bezel white dial piece ~ $500 or less…For all my summer pool days with my little lady?

                                          Thanks!

                                          I traditionally wear a garmin fenix 5x 24hr a day (w/ a seamaster “dial” ☺️). I just bought a couple of spinnakers to mix it up based on reviews and low cost. Dumas seaspray & nightfall black. Shall see.

                                          Fenix 5x which I lurve:

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            Google "Seiko Pepsi" - You'll get loads of hits…..

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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