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    • MotyM
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      Very nice article on Hondinkee about Tudor BB Pro

      https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-tudor-black-bay-pro-2?fbclid=IwAR2z8bRQPFM46iCAsF3hjOs4HA3ldxQo2KnqhXdQyvD3bHQcPrNDv1m15X0

      Courage is resistance to fear, it is mastery of fear, not absence of fear

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      • JDelageJ
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        Yeah, that Black Bay Pro looks like a category (GMT) killer. Sub $4k for a true GMT with Tudor's pedigree, it's going to be hard to beat. It's too tall at 14.6mm, but it's very attractive when compared to the new Grand Seiko GMTs at $8k+ (though to be fair the GS are 1/2mm thinner and use Spring Drive). I also love the Explorer II vibe.

        Speaking of Grand Seiko, they just released 2 small hand-wound pieces in light blue or dark green, sub $5k, which is getting rare for GS. They're available for order now and should ship next month.

        https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/grand-seiko-elegance-sbgw283gsbgw285g

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        • mclaincauseyM
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          The Cartier is amazing–something novel, creative, but also attractive.

          Hearing the Moon Swatches' straps are staining wrists 😃

          Think it, be it.

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          • GilesG
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            @JDelage:

            When an article has to show off a Rolex to demonstrate by contrast how poorly finished a movement is, it says a lot…

            Possibly one of my favourite sentences ever….

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • GilesG
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              @JDelage:

              Speaking of Grand Seiko, they just released 2 small hand-wound pieces in light blue or dark green, sub $5k, which is getting rare for GS. They're available for order now and should ship next month.

              https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/grand-seiko-elegance-sbgw283gsbgw285g

              Those are beautiful…..

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • GraemeG
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                I like the Cartier Masse Mysterieuse a lot too.

                The other quirky complication that caught my eye was the Hermès Arceau Le Temps Voyageur Dual Time Zone, which has the subdial move around the main dial to indicate the time zone.

                It's definitely cooler than the Rolex GMT-Master, and cheaper than buying one on the secondary market. 😃

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                • JDelageJ
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                  That Hermes watch is very interesting. I've been looking for a good traveller's GMT and they're actually pretty rare, outside of Rolex & Omega (GS are of course excellent, but quite thick). I wonder how thick that Hermes is. It is not cheap in steel ($23k), but the premium for platinum is very low ($6k more to $29k). I wonder if it's because the Pt model is DLC coated and therefore doesn't require the finicky finish that Pt is known for.

                  I do like how the Paris time zone is shown as "24 FBG", which is for 24 Rue du Faubourg Saint-Honoré, the address of the original Hermes boutique.

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                  • mclaincauseyM
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                    There’s that fucking 6 again from Hermes. All else is concentrically oriented but that digit. I understand the ambiguity of that particular digit when upside down but it’s clear from the context of the surrounding numerals what it is, and the way they orient it it looks more like a 9 than a 6. Really triggers my OCD.

                    Think it, be it.

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                    • GraemeG
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                      @JDelage there's a video of the Hermès that Revolution posted, which might give a better idea. It also mentions that the only platinum parts of the black watch are the case back and lugs, hence the lower than expected premium.

                      I also saw this profile shot in Hodinkee's article. It does look a bit chunky, but maybe not too bad.

                      Depends if you can live with the ambiguous six or nine, unlike @mclaincausey! 😃

                      I also like the IWC Timezoner in Ceratanium as a travel watch, but that's a shirt-unfriendly 15 mm thick. I got to try one on a few weeks ago.

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                      • JDelageJ
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                        It's lovely but it does look thick. Since it's quite beyond my means, it's not an issue.

                        I'm not a fan of world timers. I like simple 2-zone GMTs. The best of the modern renditions might be the Explorer II, but there are a lot of options in the 2nd hand market.

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                        • JDelageJ
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                          On a watch forum, someone already purchased the Tudor BBP, and showed a comparison with their Rolex GMT:

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                          • DansD
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                            Can anyone recommend a solid Pepsi bezel white dial piece ~ $500 or less…For all my summer pool days with my little lady?

                            Thanks!

                            I traditionally wear a garmin fenix 5x 24hr a day (w/ a seamaster “dial” ☺️). I just bought a couple of spinnakers to mix it up based on reviews and low cost. Dumas seaspray & nightfall black. Shall see.

                            Fenix 5x which I lurve:

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                            • GilesG
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                              Google "Seiko Pepsi" - You'll get loads of hits…..

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • mclaincauseyM
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                                I have a Garmin too and love it–nice dial on there @Dans

                                Timex has a nice-looking Pepsi but I haven't seen a white dial– to Giles' point it looks like Seiko has done white dial Pepsi bezel watches though.

                                Think it, be it.

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                                • DansD
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                                  Ya I’m finding modified seikos. I’ll keep eval. We’ll see quality of the spinnaker as they have a mid and large case option also. Thanks again.

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                                  • JDelageJ
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                                    New watch day… Took me a while to find this specific model. It’s a 250 unit limited edition from a couple years back. The green color is quite vivid, surprisingly enough for GS.

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                                    • GraemeG
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                                      I was in Melbourne last Saturday, and a girl at one of the Omega boutiques said that they would be getting in the prototype of the CK 859 this week. Since I was back in town this week, I figured that I should drop by to take a look.

                                      I can safely say it is gorgeous in the metal and very comfortable to wear. I read somewhere that the silver dial will tarnish and patinate over time, which could be interesting. The negatives are 30 metres of water resistance and I'm not sure if the vintage font is trying a bit too hard.

                                      But it reminds me of my little Tender watch in a good way. I'd consider wearing it on a blue leather strap to pick up on the colour of the hands and printing.

                                      I am very, very tempted. It's one of the nicest releases of the year, and far more interesting than a slightly warmed up Air-King. The secondary market will no doubt disagree with me.

                                      Speaking of Rolex, the boutique also had a pre-production Seamaster Professional "Hulk" with the olive dial. I believe that @JDelage (nice GS!) and @henry_david expressed a passing interest in it.

                                      It's a darker colour than I was expecting. Under the lights in the store it looked almost black from some angles. It's much less in-your-face than the Rolex Hulk.

                                      Lastly, they had the Speedmaster '57. I got to see the burgundy, vintage, and blue iterations.

                                      The burgundy dial reminds me of the late nineties / early noughties Schumacher Speedmasters, albeit a bit more subdued. It's probably a tie between this and the sandwich dial one.

                                      OK, the sandwich dial is full fauxtina! But I like the texture on it.

                                      Meanwhile the blue is almost grey.

                                      Just one thing, though. Does anyone else think that the marker and pips at 12 o'clock look like tiny, male genitalia? 😃

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                                      • AnesthetistA
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                                        Now you mention it, I cant unsee it. I do like the sandwich version and the blue/gray quite a lot and cant wait to see them in person.

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                                        • goosehdG
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                                          @Graeme I like that CK 859.  What was your overall impression re: fit/finish?  Also curious about the future of patina.  Are there any clues on how it will patina?  Like silver?

                                          Oh…and watch out for the snakes, spiders, kangaroos, don’t go swimming, and for your ultimate safety…please watch out for drop bears.  I hear they are ferocious.

                                          Hope you’re doing well!  I really laughed at the train sign picture.

                                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                          • henry_davidH
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                                            CK859 all the way, @Graeme. I'm someone who wear a 50 year old watch daily while running on trails and when I shower so … I say screw it and take a chance on the 30m WR. I'm into it.

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