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    SEXIH25 = Self Edge x Iron Heart 19oz Denim Jeans

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    • BrandreaB
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      @popvulture same here. Lucky for my wallet … otherwise.

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      • popvultureP
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        @dinobarnesberlin man I love that denim! I tried to get a pair of the last run but the back rise ended up weirdly low and I had to send em back. Hoping to pick up a pair next time around.

        WTB
        IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
        Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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        • dinobarnesberlinD
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          @popvulture right on--- its such a good weight/cut that makes it my favorite.
          It just gets a look that is unique to me.
          Plus, I like the leg twist.
          Maybe you got a weird one, so yea--get the next run if you can.

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          • Bobcat SigB
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            @popvulture we seem to have similar fits. Rise is my new fitting frontier, if there be such a thing. As I'm still learning how all these jeans and fits work, I've mostly focused on leg opening, waist, and the top block. I did not pay attention to the rise until I impulse-bought a pair of Brave Stars outside of my normal fit and found them way too low in the rise. Mid and high-rise for me now.

            Safety third

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            • popvultureP
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              @Bobcat-Sig totally hear you on that. 634's 11"-ish zone is kind of the sweet spot for me, as a 12"+ rise is fine but sometimes I almost feel like it's a tad too high when I sit down and it sorta slices into my gut haha.

              I have learned, especially with the aforementioned pair of 19Ls, that the back rise is a real one to watch out for. If it's too low, you can really get sort of a wedgie effect if you have any kind of butt. If I'm buying around a size 34, 16" rear rise is perfect, can do 15.6ish.

              WTB
              IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
              Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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              • Bobcat SigB
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                @popvulture My man! Yes, same. The 888 in 25oz does feel high on me, but have softened a bit upfront. I find that fit to be a good cold-weather option as it covers more of the backside.

                Out of curiosity since I'm a new guy here; how are you finding, in general, how front and back-rise measurements relate? I see not all brands or vendors list both, usually only one.

                With a lifetime of skiing, hiking, and now motorcycling, sporting a butt is very much my cross to bear. Though my wife loves it, so...

                Safety third

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                • CosmoSix5C
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                  @popvulture MOAR taper! 😉😜 Moarrrrrrrr, make my boot uppers gasp for air!

                  John 1 1-3 ❤️♥️❤️♥️

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                  • pechelmanP
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                    @Bobcat-Sig said in SEXIH25 = Self Edge x Iron Heart 19oz Denim Jeans:

                    Out of curiosity since I'm a new guy here; how are you finding, in general, how front and back-rise measurements relate? I see not all brands or vendors list both, usually only one.

                    not pop, but we've commiserated over this before being in the same camp of needing ~11" minimum in the front and 15.5" minimum in the rear rise.

                    In general, I'm not sure there is a general rule on how one dimension relates to the other unless both measurements are provided. In some cases, there can be a little, very little imo, give and take between front and rear rises, similar to how a shoulder measurement and a sleeve length can play together, but it's much less forgiving. This will generally change on how the waist sits on your body either angling up/down and how often you'll need to pull your pants up in the back.

                    I've also found rear rises to stretch with wear pretty reasonably.

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                    • popvultureP
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                      Yep @Bobcat-Sig I definitely agree with everything @pechelman said above ^^^ . It wasn't something I paid a lot of attention to for a good long while, because I really didn't understand why it mattered, but in retrospect I do think it has a lot to do with how the top block fits. A lot of times I'd buy a pair of IH that'd fit well in the waist, but the general top block was just too snug and I'd be thinking "I don't get it — why is this happening?" I don't think the rear rise is everything in that equation, but it's definitely part. I'd say like most dimensions, measure a pair of jeans that fit you really well and try to aim for that. The good thing is like Phil said, you can get a bit of stretch out of it.

                      My girlfriend would definitely agree about butts! lol. I think that probably has a lot to do with why I don't wear skinnier jeans — if I had chicken legs and a smaller ass, I could definitely pull that off a lot easier, but these are the cards I was dealt 😂

                      WTB
                      IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                      Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                        I am with you guys also. Don't like taper. I think the 634's in general have the most balanced top block in terms of front and back rise. Another unicorn is the 463 that has a front rise slightly lower than the 634 and a back rise that is higher, works out beautifully.

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                        • Bobcat SigB
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                          @popvulture said in SEXIH25 = Self Edge x Iron Heart 19oz Denim Jeans:

                          Yep @Bobcat-Sig I definitely agree with everything @pechelman said above ^^^ . It wasn't something I paid a lot of attention to for a good long while, because I really didn't understand why it mattered, but in retrospect I do think it has a lot to do with how the top block fits. A lot of times I'd buy a pair of IH that'd fit well in the waist, but the general top block was just too snug and I'd be thinking "I don't get it — why is this happening?" I don't think the rear rise is everything in that equation, but it's definitely part. I'd say like most dimensions, measure a pair of jeans that fit you really well and try to aim for that. The good thing is like Phil said, you can get a bit of stretch out of it.

                          My girlfriend would definitely agree about butts! lol. I think that probably has a lot to do with why I don't wear skinnier jeans — if I had chicken legs and a smaller ass, I could definitely pull that off a lot easier, but these are the cards I was dealt 😂

                          That helps. Thanks. I sometimes wonder if I over-complicate this as we're talking about garment measurement... and not launching a space shuttle. Still, I work to understand it so I can line my closet with properly fitting denim.

                          I blame the Viking blood that dominates my half-Scandanavian heritage for needing that big top block and unskinny legs.

                          Safety third

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                          • CosmoSix5C
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                            No two people are alike for sure. I've got no rear end and long skinny legs. Without a snug top and a strong taper, a very visually unappealing silhouette ensues. I tried on Wabash(freenote) pants ONCE. Couldn't put them back fast enough. 😂 I wanted them so bad until putting them on. The sales guy at the store in Columbus was hilarious. "Where do those pants stop? They just keep going" 😭😜

                            John 1 1-3 ❤️♥️❤️♥️

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                            • CosmoSix5C
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                              I can't find the 301 information anywhere. What's the type for that? There's a 8301 OD at SE it seems like a 555 with a teeny bit of taper? Same thing?

                              John 1 1-3 ❤️♥️❤️♥️

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                              • goosehdG
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                                @CosmoSix5 The 301’s are a self edge exclusive cut. Here is a thread for the sexih22-301s

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                  301 rise is way lower than a 555. Closest would be 777, though I feel like 301 rear rise is lower.

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                                    When will measurements be posted? Do they go on sale on the 31st online also?

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                                    • popvultureP
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                                      @gmk83 they’ll be posted this week prior to the release and yes, as far as I know they’ll be available online simultaneously.

                                      WTB
                                      IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                                      Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                                        @popvulture great thank you

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                                        • CosmoSix5C
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                                          @sabergirl yikes. Not for me. Thanks!

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                                            FWIW, I think Kiya mentioned that this run of 301 will have a higher rise than the usual 301

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