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    • louisboscoL
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      this would be equivalent to self driving cars. who's liable?

      1. the self driving AI would not be legally liable
      2. the person that owns the car could be absolved of liabilities because he/she would technically not be in control

      not taking into account, causation and chain of effect.

      "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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      • goosehdG
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        @EdH Thank you for your detailed response!!

        Further question: You typically build an argument based upon existing laws and precedents and I can see you using AI to strengthen your argument, but could you also use it as a tool to poke holes in your argument and give you perspectives that you weren't anticipating.

        I could see that as quite useful to prepare you and your client in any case that you were examining and to save you time and the client's money in those arguments.

        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        • T4920T
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          New Open AI x Figure demo.

          They've also confirmed that no parts of the videos are edited/sped up, and that all responses are generated in real time, with no pre-programming.

          What gets me though, is the human-like vocal quirks! The uhms, and ahhs really anthropomorphise the machine in my mind...

          “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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          • mclaincauseyM
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            My wife just received the latest upgrade of her artificial unintelligence at the salon

            Think it, be it.

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            • EdHE
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              @goosehd said in Artificial Intelligence:

              could you also use it as a tool to poke holes in your argument and give you perspectives that you weren't anticipating

              I have heard that an LLM called HarveyAI can do something like this. I've registered my interest in that product, but I doubt I'll hear back. It seems from their marketing that they want their customer base to be reserved for the very upper-echelons of our industry. I doubt they'd be interested in firms outside London.

              Take the dive...

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              • EdHE
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                @T4920 Ok, that's really cool, but also kind of freaking me out.

                It's the drudgery of the tasks it was set, I think. I'm having flashbacks to the existential ennui experienced by the butter passing robot in Rick and Morty.

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                Take the dive...

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                • weftyarnW
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                  the new Figure Demo literally made me lose some Muesli as my jaw dropped watching it this morning @T4920

                  How it pushed the trash container further in the sense of „uh wait, this wasn’t far enough, he‘ll have a hard time reaching it“

                  Use it or lose it.

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                    The Figure One demo is very impressive, but I’d be interested to see how it copes with a less controlled/sanitised environment. The Figure videos are noticeably different compared to the Boston Dynamics videos (for example). The Boston Dynamics robotics demos are great because they show the robots failing and being interfered with by the outside world (I vaguely remember a video showing their Atlas robot being beaten with a hockey stick while it tried to pick up a box).

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                    • EdHE
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                      Take the dive...

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                      • WhiskeySandwichW
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                        @EdH ROFL OMG that had me rolling. NAILED IT

                        "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                        -Seneca

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          @EdH based… Trump?! What happened here?

                          Think it, be it.

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                          • pechelmanP
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                            Congrats on getting your first youtube subscriber @EdH 😃

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                            • EdHE
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                              @pechelman well they’ll be very bored waiting!

                              Take the dive...

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                              • pechelmanP
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                                Ha! It was me @EdH

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                                • T4920T
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                                  The new wave of AI music generation tools are quietly concerning, but endlessly entertaining to mess around with.

                                  Two simple prompts, and around 15 seconds later, this is what it came out with...

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                                  https://suno.com/song/18e96a14-c088-40b5-b36c-c9ebc26ce7a6

                                  “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                                    That’s creepy AF

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                                    • T4920T
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                                      @sabergirl I know right! In the same way that some CGI sits in the realm of the 'uncanny valley', the terms of phrase generated as lyrics by this programme leave me feeling equally unsettled...

                                      That said, this is such an early iteration this phenomenon. I have no doubt it'll be almost indistinguishable from 'real music' in the not too distant future! 🙁

                                      “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                                        I’m hopeful that it will never be able to surpass human creativity, but who knows? Not hard to surpass the pop music being produced at the moment.

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                                        • WhiskeySandwichW
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                                          @T4920 😳 woah

                                          "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                                          -Seneca

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                                          • mclaincauseyM
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                                            Until it kills us all we can have fun with AI.

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                                            Kurzweil saying it will give us eternal life is insane and not physically possible given the laws of entropy. In terms of radical life extension, I see two main possibilities. Nanobots that can repair cellular damage and generic mutations and anything else that constitutes aging (whose mechanisms we don’t fully understand) or if it’s possible to relocate our consciousness into inorganic, self-repairing and/or self-replicating robots/space ships (von Neumann probes) then we could extend “life” for very long periods… but there would be a lot of things that may be physically impossible along the way especially for the latter. For us to survive billions of years into the future, we will need to master interstellar travel, and that may require something like the latter alternative.

                                            It’s weird that he makes such wild assumptions about what’s possible. I think he should know better.

                                            At any rate, humanity’s current trajectory seems far afield from such a future.

                                            Think it, be it.

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