Football (Soccer)

[mclaincausey]

@IrishHeart this is true but the subs came I think something like 20 minutes or so after the goal. So the collapse happened before the subs.

It was still a braindead move but the players earned some blame too.

[IrishHeart]

@mclaincausey agree that the players do not escape blame, but that method of taking the lead and holding on for dear life has been a running theme in several games, and the coach has done nothing to address it, either in between the games or during the numerous breaks in the game.

We saw similar failings under Southgate, and assumed this was an area Tuchel would help to resolve.

If the tactic is to try not to lose rather than try to win, then eventually you run out of luck.

No complaints, the better team won, just didn’t think England would hand it to them gift wrapped.

[mclaincausey]

Well I have complaints Tuchel is a blithering idiot. I agree he fell into the same pattern we saw against Norway and Mexico. But that was Norway and Mexico, not Argentina. Thinking you can park the bus against them was idiotic. The way England looked before that goal I think they could have won if they’d just kept doing what they were doing. Maybe the players just didn’t have it in them to do that but the barrage of goals and domination of possession were clearly unsustainable.

[louisbosco]

messi is a disgrace. falling at every opportunity. makes me more certain he would've never made it in the prem..

[hajduk]

@louisbosco a disgrace? C'mon my friend! Not a fan of this team or the attitude of these guys, but c'mon!

[louisbosco]

hes got skills. the way he keeps the ball close to him is unreal. but I don't like the falling over and all the antics. he's not a hard knocks kinda player.

[Tago Mago]

@louisbosco the less said about the Argentinian players the better, but I think Messi is the best player of my lifetime

[Nick]

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That's all I have to say about them. The absolute < REDACTED > .

[Tago Mago]

I have strong feelings about a number of Argentinian players but if the players and Tuchel hadn’t shit the bed quite so badly we wouldn’t be talking about any of this now. Accountability starts with Tuchel but everyone needs to take a hard look at themselves after that game

[mclaincausey]

I didn’t like what Tuchel had to say about his team after the Mexico game either. It was disrespectful to Mexico and his team at the same time.

Anyway, I imagine he’ll get his walking papers soon enough.

[goosehd]

@Nick I like what you said there