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Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

Sales - The Iron Heart Position…..

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    mclaincausey
    見習いボス
    Joined: 12 Apr 2013

    I’m sure your retailers appreciate your not announcing sales well in advance too. They’d have people trying shit on and not buying it, for example, in preparation for the sale. That would be annoying.

    Think it, be it.

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      Giles
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

      Good point

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        Dmart
        啓蒙家
        Joined: 24 Mar 2021

        I really appreciate the transparency, which is rare in todays business world.
        I just have difficulties to understand the purpose of the post. Maybe it’s because I’m not native English, but I read it a bit like a justification of why you do the things the way you do.
        Everything you state makes perfectly sense to me. You are, or should be, a profit oriented business, not an NPO. There should be no questions around how you do a sale or am I missing something?

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          Nik
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 12 Nov 2020

          I think the purpose of the post is to explain why IH does things slightly differently. Rare and good to get this kind of transparency. Thanks @Giles and IH team
          PS I just ordered from the sale despite being on holiday in France… Looking forward to coming to Gosport in the end of August to pick up!

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            Giles
            IHUK Crew
            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

            @Dmart:

            I just have difficulties to understand the purpose of the post.

            Because we are always being asked things like:

            When is your next sale?
            Why have you excluded stuff from the sale?
            Why don't you do regular 6 monthly sales?
            Some brands slash prices massively at the end of a season, why don't you?

            And I bet the CS team could come up with a few more…..

            Now I can just point people to this post rather than re-inventing the wheel everytime I reply....

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

            last edited by 5 Aug 2022, 14:01 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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              Dmart
              啓蒙家
              Joined: 24 Mar 2021

              Thanks Giles. I’m surprised by these questions but I guess that’s how it is and what you need to deal with on a daily basis.
              For me, just keep doing what you’re doing! Love the staff, the stuff, the brand and the community!

              last edited by 5 Aug 2022, 14:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                seawolf
                Mod Squad
                Joined: 28 Oct 2011

                The amount of time your staff has spent on customer service is apparent, and appreciated. And I think customer service is one of the most underrated aspects of running a customer-facing business well. There's a saying in the restaurant business that applies to retail as well: "People come for the food, and come back for the service." This is something that really applies to Iron Heart.

                As far as sales go, I'll forever be a fan of high quality items that stand the test of time, and I don't mind paying full price for IH items because they absolutely define that category, and it's cool when a sale pops up because I can grab a few more things for my collection. And I always appreciate the transparency that comes from IHUK with things like this, so thank you @Giles, et al.

                “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                @zeebeeleather

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                  Giles
                  IHUK Crew
                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                  @seawolf:

                  "People come for the food, and come back for the service." This is something that really applies to Iron Heart.

                  I'll go back to a restaurant that serves average food if the staff are great.  I go for the experience, and the food is just part of the gig….

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    ARNC
                    啓蒙家
                    Joined: 13 Dec 2020

                    I guess once people have tuned in to what IH do, they will get why you don’t behave like other retailers. When products are timeless and often in demand many years after initial release there’s no need for regular sales every few months.

                    A discount is nice, but probably doesn’t make much difference on a cost-per-wear basis. A model that provides the legendary IH customer service and everything else we love is, in my mind, worth far more.

                    “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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                      DrPat
                      Iron Heart Deity
                      Joined: 9 Oct 2009

                      Last year that post would have only consisted of 4 capital letters.  I guess that’s the benefit of retirement [emoji6].

                      Thanks for the info.

                      last edited by 5 Aug 2022, 17:26 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        endo
                        見習いボス
                        Joined: 29 May 2020

                        @Giles:

                        we can spend money on R&D, pursue off-the-wall ideas, sample interesting things, pay our staff well, spend a massive proportion of our time on customer service etc. etc. etc

                        and that's why it's so good to be an IH customer and a part of this community

                        si tacuisses

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                          Giles
                          IHUK Crew
                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                          @DrPat:

                          Last year that post would have only consisted of 4 capital letters.  I guess that’s the benefit of retirement [emoji6].

                          Thanks for the info.

                          IS THIS BETTER.  FUCK OFF  🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            popvulture
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 2 Oct 2018

                            People love to complain. I applaud your tact — my response would probably be the above method 😉

                            WTB
                            IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                            Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

                            last edited by 5 Aug 2022, 18:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              DrPat
                              Iron Heart Deity
                              Joined: 9 Oct 2009

                              Yes!  Very nostalgic.

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                                goosehd
                                Mod Squad
                                Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                much better…I'll be able to sleep soundly tonight  🙂

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                                last edited by 5 Aug 2022, 18:04 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  endo
                                  見習いボス
                                  Joined: 29 May 2020

                                  @Giles:

                                  @DrPat:

                                  Last year that post would have only consisted of 4 capital letters.

                                  IS THIS BETTER.  FUCK OFF  🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

                                  just 4 @Giles c'mon, you can do better  😃

                                  si tacuisses

                                  last edited by 5 Aug 2022, 18:05 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Giles
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                    FFS GF, better things to do with my time…..

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                    last edited by 5 Aug 2022, 18:09 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      endo
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 29 May 2020

                                      😉

                                      si tacuisses

                                      last edited by 5 Aug 2022, 18:21 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        vaquero357
                                        Banned
                                        Joined: 9 Aug 2020

                                        …I can't tell you how much I appreciate the candid, direct and honest approach in explaining the many facets of your business, bravo! 😎 I hope it never changes.
                                        ...I just spent a grip right before the sale and I would of saved money had I'd known about the sale weeks earlier but I get it and I respect your explanation of the retail business side. It makes sense to me.
                                        ...Iron Heart is a special product and sometimes 'that's just the way love goes honey!'. 😘 😉
                                        ...and I still jumped in on the sale, I had to, HAD TO. 🙂

                                        last edited by 5 Aug 2022, 20:31 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          goosehd
                                          Mod Squad
                                          Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                          I think most of us came here for the clothes and gear…we stay because of the people and relationships we’ve made.

                                          My closet’s full, I don’t need another item…(there’s always something else), but the people are truly something special.  🙂

                                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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