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    mclaincausey
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    Joined: 12 Apr 2013

    Think it, be it.

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      Giles
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

      We absolutely love the extinct section, and it was originally my idea, so it is close to my heart.

      BUT, it has become a complete nightmare to maintain, screws up response times, eats resources like a Sumo wrestler and will only get worse as time goes by.

      We are trying to work out what we do in a way that does not fuck up the shop, which is sort of our raison d'etre.

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        Oaktavia
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        Joined: 12 Jun 2019

        @sabergirl I noticed this too and definitely used it to check out extinct items that I sometimes come across in the buying and selling section here and other online sellers. Even when I'm bored and want to learn about extinct products, I loved that resource.

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        "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

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          sabergirl
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          Joined: 4 Oct 2013

          Seems like it would be incredibly time consuming to try to copy the measurements into beginning of the forum threads, so that’s probably a non-starter.

          Thanks for responding, Giles. It certainly was a huge number of products, so even though I have almost no clue how websites work, I can imagine it used a fair amount of resources.

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            goosehd
            Mod Squad
            Joined: 8 Apr 2016

            …pissed in a hornet's nest.  Understand the work and headache, but really hope you guys can preserve it in some fashion.

            @Giles Could you create and preserve it in a IH mirror site that specifically deals with extinct items?

            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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              FurattoHeddo
              Joined: 25 May 2010

              I noticed yesterday while updating my sales page as I usually link to the relevant page.
              Will surely be missed. 😢

              "Don't ever be sorry"

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                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                @goosehd:

                …pissed in a hornet's nest.  Understand the work and headache, but really hope you guys can preserve it in some fashion.

                @Giles Could you create and preserve it in a IH mirror site that specifically deals with extinct items?

                Possibly.  @Alex ?

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  jskidder
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  Joined: 29 Jul 2010

                  I also miss it  😞

                  last edited by 24 Mar 2022, 16:50 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Alex
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                    I think it would depend on what people specifically miss, being able to browse old products or comparing measurements with active ones. We could not have a mirrored site for extinct that was comparable to the current website, for example

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                      Matt
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                      Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                      Just get @Clint_D to send pictures of his closet.  It’s all in there.

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                        goosehd
                        Mod Squad
                        Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                        If getting rid of the compare feature preserves the archives, I’m all for it.  I can always manually write numbers down for comparison.

                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                          Alex
                          IHUK Crew
                          Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                          Cool, please keep the feedback coming. The reason that we did this trial period was to get feedback. The category has been disabled for nearly two weeks and today is the first communication we have received on the matter.

                          last edited by 24 Mar 2022, 16:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            goosehd
                            Mod Squad
                            Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                            last edited by 24 Mar 2022, 17:02 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              jordanscollected
                              啓蒙家
                              Joined: 13 Nov 2018

                              A lot of times it's used as fodder for the curious. I've seen someone post a shirt I hadn't seen in the past on waywt, and I proceed to go through the forum page of that shirt to see some history.

                              buy/sell is another sub-forum that is a seed for the extinct pages. If you want more info on an item for sale, you can go through those pages to see fit pics, go through history on sizing, etc.

                              Neither of the reasons I described make Iron Heart money, and it sounds like maintaining it costs IH labor, so there has to be a better reason for it.

                              I for one, browsed those older pages frequently when something came up for sale and have been stonewalled the last couple weeks. I didn't think to mention it because who am I to rock the boat?

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                                goosehd
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                                Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                                last edited by 24 Mar 2022, 17:12 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  mclaincausey
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                                  Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                                  I consider "Rock the Boat" to be my daughter's theme song–true story @goosehd 😃

                                  I think that Extinct just needs a little love not to chew so many cycles. The paging should be limited so that it is not possible to load hundreds of images on a page, for example. The rub there is balancing that against encouraging excessive clicks–what's the sweet spot? Maybe it could be broken down into a directory structure by release year, category of good, material, item number (e.g., IHSH-01 to IHSH-25 becomes a page, and so on) or some other organizing principle(s) and be a simple tree to navigate and search. Maybe it could be offloaded to a blogging platform.

                                  I think it is an important "museum" and should live on in some form, even if you have to sacrifice usability a bit.

                                  Think it, be it.

                                  last edited by 24 Mar 2022, 17:48 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Kasi
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                                    Joined: 9 Oct 2014

                                    Hope you find a way round this

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                                    last edited by 24 Mar 2022, 19:05 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      tody
                                      啓蒙家
                                      Joined: 24 Feb 2021

                                      I'd like to have the section back!
                                      Snagged a Chino off eBay yesterday, and wanted to research measurements before, that's when I noticed the section is missing, too.

                                      As mentioned before, it doesn't benefit you directly, but it's a great feature for ensuring trust in the brand.
                                      For people buying used it's a great resource, also when comparing measurements of older stuff you own with new pieces.

                                      last edited by 24 Mar 2022, 19:18 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        Paul9221
                                        啓蒙家
                                        Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                                        Personally, I just use it for the measurements, pictures, and forum link.  99% of the time, I'm digging up a page for an extinct piece because I found a used one on the markets and I want to see how it looks and how it fits.

                                        So, I'm okay with it moving straight to the forums, so long as the forum thread contains the measurement charts and a link to product pictures.

                                        Blanket-line all the things!!!

                                        last edited by 24 Mar 2022, 19:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          sabergirl
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                                          Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                                          My main use of it has always been to identify item numbers and make aftermarket purchases when a seller doesn’t provide good measurements. I recognize that this doesn’t really have any benefit to Iron Heart, but I sure will miss how easy it was to access this info.

                                          The problem with relying on the forum, is that the majority of the older threads don’t have size charts. Or if they do, you have to wade through a lot of pages to find them.

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                                          last edited by 24 Mar 2022, 19:20 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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