AI Chat/GPT Pictures and Usage
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The topic has been forked/moved here for further discussion @Giles @Ikeaparty @nixage @sabergirl @Stringthing75
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Completely agree with what's already been said here, 10 years or so people would say "That's photoshopped!" now it's "that's AI!"
At least there was some level of skill/work when people used photoshop...
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@don_pipone I think this is addressed moreso at fake AI evo pics and such.
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@Oaktavia I understand but still no one knows where this image might end up. I agree with what @Stringthing75 said, I didn’t think about possible implications when I posted it. Even though it‘s probably not as bad as fake evo it still is fake and should be marked as such.
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@Oaktavia @don_pipone I wont lie, I've asked ChatGPT to give me fake evo pics on jeans like "what would these look like in 6 months" just to see what it could do... I don't think they look real, and you can normally always tell. But it would be really lame for someone to post them and pretend it's their own evo, etc. It could even be a concern for fading comps
I imagine if @Oaktavia asked to evo his jeans, it would just show them disintegrating and turning to dust
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@Jord it wouldn’t be lame, it would be hilarious
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@Jord said in AI Chat/GPT Pictures and Usage:
I imagine if @Oaktavia asked to evo his jeans, it would just show them disintegrating and turning to dust
Now I‘m seriously curious what ChatGPT would make out of it -
As I said, no offence to anyone that posted stuff. remember, all this kind of thing is usually done with good intentions. and to be fair, IH crew themselves might already be finding a use for the amount of times they are asked "hey what would this look like with snaps made of platinum from mars" etc.
I don't want to sound like a luddite, but even if the IH crew were to start knocking out 'official' AI generated pics at the request of users, it still leaves the absolute guarantee of them spreading very very easily far and wide. especially as with AI tools you can easily 'strip' digital watermarks off of pics. It completely dilutes the original intention.
Then you're back to square one. One shirt, and about 25 different images that very quickly people lose sight of what is the actual piece.
I can guarantee this will only ever result in a headache for the IH crew. Or to put it another way, nothing good will ever come of it.So really, the only solution is complete integrity of the image. after all, it's the brands absolute gold standard. you control how your stuff is presented. To a point. We know that, but that's all you can do. If you do less than that then you have to accept the grief that will follow. and no one wants that. there's enough going on to be dealing with a disappointed punter from the depths of Scotland (me) who is wondering why his "grail" didn't come with a chain stitch run off even though it was never meant to. etc etc.
if people want to see what a mockup might look like, then if it isn't physically possible, then feel free to crack on and do it outwith the forum and make your decision based on that.
As has been said before, a lot of time, effort and money goes into producing high quality photography, measurements, service etc and I'd hate to see that be compromised .
It can be subtle stuff. slightly changing the shade of indigo on a pair of jeans, it then wouldn't be easily noticed by the next person.Also, the very fresh 'feedback' around some items have shown that if a user - with good intentions - used AI (or any tool) to show what it 'could' have looked like in their opinion and then someone sees it and orders it and then it doesn't look quite like that then you're just giving yourself a huge headache.
What happens on the wilds of the internet is beyond control. but this forum is essentially an integral part of the brand.my point basically is if we all adhere - to the best of our knowledge - to keep this completely AI/Photoshop free then it retains the integrity of the item, the photography, the vision and importantly, the expectations of everyone involved. It retains everyone's full confidence. Because you don't need to ask that question. You already know.
No tools required, just a policy that people on here adhere to. no caveats.
re-reading that it sounds like I have unilaterally decided and written the policy but hey, you know what I mean.
I am not always this boring by the way.
Over and out!
EDIT : A fair chunk of this is really for benefit of users who maybe think 'who cares'. it's not trying to tell IH how to run their business, lol. Obviously they do that very well!
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@Stringthing75 You owe me a pint for reading all that
But yeah, I think IHUK know that using AI for products would be a bad idea... Although I've seen Haraki show quite a few pics edited with AI on his bike!
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@Stringthing75 ... I'm Scottish too mate, from Glasgow, but would gladly take you up on that offer! Haha.
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We are persuaded by the arguments about using AI for images of our stuff. AI can't possibly know what will happen with our gear over time, not least because many of the fabrics and denims we use have not been made before. An inaccurate, assumed/generated rendition does us, as brand, no good at all. And in all honesty, this place was created, amongst other things, to show our clothing in real life.
We probably won't catch them all. but please do not post AI generated images of Iron Heart products. If we see one, we will delete it.
We will update the Forum Member Guidelines as soon as we can.
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@Stringthing75 said in AI Chat/GPT Pictures and Usage:
I'll buy you 50 pints if Scotland win the World Cup. and that's a promise lol.
you can't AI generate that cause that ain't happening.
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