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    • OaktaviaO
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      Yeah, I agree with this too. AI does not have a purpose here on the forum, that should go without needing to be said.

      IG: electricindigowizard

      "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

      ISO: IHJ-32 - XL/XXL

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      • JordJ
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        Completely agree with what's already been said here, 10 years or so people would say "That's photoshopped!" now it's "that's AI!"

        At least there was some level of skill/work when people used photoshop...

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        • don_piponeD
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          I feel addressed with the snaps. Sorry for that. I swapped the image in the respective thread for a watermarked one ✌️

          IG: @fadecyde
          WTB: IHSH-156 burgundy (M)

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          • OaktaviaO
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            @don_pipone I think this is addressed moreso at fake AI evo pics and such.

            IG: electricindigowizard

            "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

            ISO: IHJ-32 - XL/XXL

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            • don_piponeD
              don_pipone
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              @Oaktavia I understand but still no one knows where this image might end up. I agree with what @Stringthing75 said, I didn’t think about possible implications when I posted it. Even though it‘s probably not as bad as fake evo it still is fake and should be marked as such.

              IG: @fadecyde
              WTB: IHSH-156 burgundy (M)

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              • JordJ
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                @Oaktavia @don_pipone I wont lie, I've asked ChatGPT to give me fake evo pics on jeans like "what would these look like in 6 months" just to see what it could do... I don't think they look real, and you can normally always tell. But it would be really lame for someone to post them and pretend it's their own evo, etc. It could even be a concern for fading comps

                I imagine if @Oaktavia asked to evo his jeans, it would just show them disintegrating and turning to dust 😃

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                • Tago MagoT
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                  @Jord Hey ChatGPT, show me Oak-aged denim

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                  • don_piponeD
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                    @Jord it wouldn’t be lame, it would be hilarious 😅

                    IG: @fadecyde
                    WTB: IHSH-156 burgundy (M)

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                    • don_piponeD
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                      @Jord said in AI Chat/GPT Pictures and Usage:

                      I imagine if @Oaktavia asked to evo his jeans, it would just show them disintegrating and turning to dust 😃

                      🤣 Now I‘m seriously curious what ChatGPT would make out of it

                      IG: @fadecyde
                      WTB: IHSH-156 burgundy (M)

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                      • S
                        Stringthing75
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                        as I said, no offence to anyone that posted stuff. remember, all this kind of thing is usually done with good intentions. and to be fair, IH crew themselves might already be finding a use for the amount of times they are asked "hey what would this look like with snaps made of platinum from mars" etc.

                        I don't want to sound like a luddite, but even if the IH crew were to start knocking out 'official' AI generated pics at the request of users, it still leaves the absolute guarantee of them spreading very very easily far and wide. especially as with AI tools you can easily 'strip' digital watermarks off of pics. It completely dilutes the original intention.
                        Then you're back to square one. One shirt, and about 25 different images that very quickly people lose sight of what is the actual piece.
                        especially when some stores use the same photography, or scrape their pics from multiple sources. I can guarantee this will only ever result in a headache for the IH crew. Or to put it another way, there is no situation where it is a good idea to lose control of your source image, within reasonable grounds.

                        So really, the only solution is complete integrity of the image. after all, it's the brands absolute gold standard. you control how your stuff is presented. To a point. We know that, but that's all you can do. If you do less than that then you have to accept the grief that will follow. and no one wants that. there's enough going on to be dealing with a disappointed punter from the depths of Scotland (me) who is wondering why his "grail" didn't come with a chain stitch run off even though it was never meant to. etc etc.

                        if people want to see what a mockup might look like, then if it isn't physically possible, then feel free to crack on and do it outwith the forum and make your decision based on that.

                        As has been said before, a lot of time, effort and money goes into producing high quality photography, measurements, service etc and I'd hate to see that go down the toilet when it becomes an AI slop fest. There are a lot of threads and images could be anywhere.
                        It can be subtle stuff. slightly changing the shade of indigo on a pair of jeans, it then wouldn't be easily noticed by the next person.

                        Also, without stirring any recent emotions, the very fresh 'feedback' around some purple and white stripes and then some pockets being slightly misaligned have shown that if a user - with good intentions - used AI (or any tool) to 'fix' the pockets to show what it 'should' have looked like in their opinion and they send it to someone and then that person orders it and then it doesn't look quite like that then you're just giving yourself a huge headache.
                        what happens on the wilds of the internet is beyond your control. but this forum is essentially an integral part of the brand.

                        my point basically is if we all adhere - to the best of our knowledge - to keep this completely AI/Photoshop free then it retains the integrity of the item, the photography, the vision and importantly, the expectations of everyone involved. It retains everyone's full confidence. Because you don't need to ask that question. You already know.

                        No tools required, just a policy that people on here adhere to. no caveats.

                        re-reading that it sounds like I have unilaterally decided and written the policy but hey, you know what I mean.

                        Where I work we have very good reason to be in complete control of our "IP" so to speak and if you don't set your stall out super early on how you deal with AI and employees/users use of tools then your own commercial interests can very quickly be exposed to a completely unnecessary and unstoppable level of risk. If you pause for 2mins to think about the proprietary information people routinely type into - for example - ChatGPT on work networks then you'd have zero hesitation in outlawing it lol.
                        Especially more so for smaller businesses that do not have the resources and can be sunk without trace overnight.

                        I realise I have made quite the leap from a few dodgy pics to the END OF THE WORLD but you get the gist. Control what you can control basically. you'll thank yourselves later. If you don't, then you're leaving your front door unlocked basically.

                        I am not always this boring by the way.

                        Over and out!

                        EDIT : A fair chink of this is really for benefit of users who maybe think 'who cares'. it's not trying to tell IH how to run their business, lol. Obviously they do that quite well!

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                        • OaktaviaO
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                          Hahaha

                          IG: electricindigowizard

                          "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                          ISO: IHJ-32 - XL/XXL

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                          • JordJ
                            Jord
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                            @Stringthing75 You owe me a pint for reading all that 🙂

                            But yeah, I think IHUK know that using AI for products would be a bad idea... Although I've seen Haraki show quite a few pics edited with AI on his bike! 🤣

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                              Stringthing75
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                              @Jord haha yeah all good fun to be able to contribute. I'll buy you 50 pints if Scotland win the World Cup. and that's a promise lol.

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                              • JordJ
                                Jord
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                                @Stringthing75 ... I'm Scottish too mate, from Glasgow, but would gladly take you up on that offer! Haha.

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