Ship John

[Chibs]

I was curious about what the difference between Dobby & Sashiko so I googled this:

So does this mean that the fabric from these shirts are actually hand stitched?

[rahrah12]

@Chibs Pretty sure that's how Mike explained it in one of his lives awhile back before one of the original drops. It's why it was one of the harder fabrics for him to get in large quantities and why it tends to be more expensive.

[Chibs]

@rahrah12 So cool!!!!!

[Denimhead 0]

Sashiko w the SJ Wesco’s

[MrJay]

@Chibs @rahrah12 Sashiko-ori fabric is also made on a loom. It is just done in a manner to replicate the hand-stitched look from a traditional Sashiko weave. Ship John uses the term Sashiko-ori, which appears to be technically correct. Whereas other clothing manufacturers who use Sashiko-ori fabrics just call it by the short hand “Sashiko”

[Chibs]

@MrJay Got it, that makes a bit more sense cost wise. So this stuff is basically Dobby cloth?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPEmPy4CU4y/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

[MrJay]

@Chibs I believe that’s right. My understanding (although others should correct me if I’m mistaken) is that Sashiko-ori is just a specific kind of fabric/pattern of weave woven on a dobby loom. So whereas all Sashiko-ori fabrics are also technically dobby fabrics, not all dobby fabrics are Sashiko-ori

[Chibs]

@MrJay You broke my brain just a little bit! hah

[MrJay]

@Chibs Haha oh no! Looking back, my response could have been clearer. I just meant that Sashiko-ori is just a particular kind of pattern woven on a dobby loom

[Chibs]

@MrJay Thank you. It would be interesting to compare this with Iron Heart's Dobby and I know they've made Sashiko in the past too. Curious if there's a discernable difference.

[talexander]

@Chibs To me the material used for the IHV-50-IND and the material used for Ship John's Sashiko-ori are almost indiscernible. I will try and take a picture of them together today.

[mecken88]

Close up on both.

•IHV-50-IND on left
•Ship John sashiko ori shirt on right

Looks very similar from just looks.

[nixage]

I might throw mine up on ebay if the IH CPO dobby fits me well. Although, I really like the Townes and may just get it hemmed.

[talexander]

@nixage Hemmed my indigo and black sashiko-ori shirts. Really happy with how they turned out.

[nixage]

@talexander Can you tell me where? I'm okay with shipping it.

[talexander]

Just at my local tailor in Des Moines, IA. I wrote Ship John before I did my first one. They said to wash it and let it dry first and the fabric is much easier to sew. They thought any tailor should be able to do it. I believe @hgering27 did as well. He may have someone he suggest. He gave much more detail about his tailoring than I could.

[northsouthdenimguy]

@nixage

I have the black Sashiko Ori Townes and the 437 CPO. I passed on the indigo Sashiko when a forum member was nice enough to offer me one he had picked up on the last drop. A boot/clothing buddy sent me the link yesterday when it dropped again, passed again.

Part of me really wanted to buy it, but I’ve heard the black and indigo look very similar color wise in person. Plus I’m trying to keep overlap to a minimum in my wardrobe.

Either way you can’t go wrong.

[ogcraig1]

@nixage you might reach out to Railcar Fine Goods. They should be able to assist you in making the alterations.

https://railcarfinegoods.com/

[NomadCrow]

@Chibs Pretty sure that the shirts are made from this material: https://bansyo-fabric.com/products/sashiko-fabric-by-the-yard-kendo-fabric-sashi-ori-alternative-version-sashiko-weave?variant=43694665859355

[talexander]

@northsouthdenimguy while both dark, I certainly feel they are far enough a part to warrant buying both if a person wanted to. For an Iron Heart comparison I'd say it's like SBG vs. IB. I think the black will end up a smoky Grey and well we've all seen how Mike's indigo version turned out.