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[Tago Mago]

Heaven and Hell is the Best Black Sabbath album, no discussion

[Jett129]

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[Heritage_Guy]

@Tago-Mago

"Heaven and Hell is the Best Black Sabbath album, no discussion."

That is a spicy take.

[scooter]

@Tago-Mago said in Music:

Heaven and Hell is the Best Black Sabbath album, no discussion

This belongs in unpop ops. A Black Sabbath album without Ozzy is not truly a Black Sabbath album...

[scooter]

[GraemeE]

@scooter said in Music:

A Black Sabbath album without Ozzy is not truly a Black Sabbath album...

That's not an opinion
That's just a fact

[Jett129]

In my opinion the first 2 Black Sabbath albums are up there with several other band’s first 2 albums…Hendrix,Cream,The Doors,Led Zeppelin,of that time period.

[Tago Mago]

@scooter I stand by everything I wrote. The first 5 albums are great, Heaven and Hell is just better

[Matt]

Do you also think Sammy Hagar Van Halen is better than DLR?

[SKT]

I think we can all agree that Gary Cherone era Van Halen is the best.

[Matt]

[SKT]

I saw Van Halen’s maiden “Hagar” voyage when I was 15 at the Tarrant County Convention Center in Ft. Worth, TX. We had one buddy who could drive and his car broke down on I-30 trying to get to the show. We somehow made it to the concert and the only other memory I have of the show was Sammy climbing around on overhead scaffolding. That was “commercial” era VH

[Jett129]

@Matt said in Music:

Do you also think Sammy Hagar Van Halen is better than DLR?

That’s a really good point of reference type question. When I saw Black Sabbath,I was aware of the other musicians,but if they replaced one of them it wouldn’t have dissuaded me from liking the band. If you replace Ozzy,then all of a sudden it’s not what I signed up for. In terms of VH,I thought as long as Eddie was playing guitar it wouldn’t matter who was singing. I couldn’t have been more wrong. Different vibe with Hagar,no where near as much fun. Dave was just a flat out better front man,and I feel that to some degree his intense energy was contagious with the rest of the band as well as the audience. I know you weren’t asking me but you got me thinking.

[Tago Mago]

@Matt I don’t have strong opinions on Van Halen. I do think that Pantera minus Dimebag and Vinnie Paul should not exist. Same goes for Queen minus Freddie Mercury. AC/DC are great in either iteration. As far as I’m concerned they never had another singer

[Matt]

@Jett129 I’m glad you chimed in because you nailed it.

Furthermore, it was just last night I was reading about Wolfgang not playing the final Ozzy show because his “other” band was playing. WTF firstly, second, who’s going to see Van Halen w/o EVH. I mean if Sammy Hagar is Van Halen Lite then no Eddie is basically a cover band.

[Matt]

@Tago-Mago agreed on AC/DC. They’re both classic bands in each of their own ways.

[goosehd]

@Matt …the other band was “Creed”…

That’s one that you look back on and ask yourself what the hell was I thinking.

[Tago Mago]

One band I can’t imagine in a different lineup is Rush, which is ironic since Neil Peart only joined for their second album

[Matt]

@goosehd that’s what it was… how the hell do you play on tour with Ozzy one night and Creed the next? Talk about hedging your bets.

[scooter]