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    • GraemeEG
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      @scooter said in Music:

      A Black Sabbath album without Ozzy is not truly a Black Sabbath album...

      That's not an opinion
      That's just a fact

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        In my opinion the first 2 Black Sabbath albums are up there with several other band’s first 2 albums…Hendrix,Cream,The Doors,Led Zeppelin,of that time period.

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        • Tago MagoT
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          @scooter I stand by everything I wrote. The first 5 albums are great, Heaven and Hell is just better

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          • MattM
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            Do you also think Sammy Hagar Van Halen is better than DLR?

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            • SKTS
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              I think we can all agree that Gary Cherone era Van Halen is the best.

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              • MattM
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                😒

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                • SKTS
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                  I saw Van Halen’s maiden “Hagar” voyage when I was 15 at the Tarrant County Convention Center in Ft. Worth, TX. We had one buddy who could drive and his car broke down on I-30 trying to get to the show. We somehow made it to the concert and the only other memory I have of the show was Sammy climbing around on overhead scaffolding. That was “commercial” era VH

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                    @Matt said in Music:

                    Do you also think Sammy Hagar Van Halen is better than DLR?

                    That’s a really good point of reference type question. When I saw Black Sabbath,I was aware of the other musicians,but if they replaced one of them it wouldn’t have dissuaded me from liking the band. If you replace Ozzy,then all of a sudden it’s not what I signed up for. In terms of VH,I thought as long as Eddie was playing guitar it wouldn’t matter who was singing. I couldn’t have been more wrong. Different vibe with Hagar,no where near as much fun. Dave was just a flat out better front man,and I feel that to some degree his intense energy was contagious with the rest of the band as well as the audience. I know you weren’t asking me but you got me thinking.

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                    • Tago MagoT
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                      @Matt I don’t have strong opinions on Van Halen. I do think that Pantera minus Dimebag and Vinnie Paul should not exist. Same goes for Queen minus Freddie Mercury. AC/DC are great in either iteration. As far as I’m concerned they never had another singer

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                      • MattM
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                        @Jett129 I’m glad you chimed in because you nailed it.

                        Furthermore, it was just last night I was reading about Wolfgang not playing the final Ozzy show because his “other” band was playing. WTF firstly, second, who’s going to see Van Halen w/o EVH. I mean if Sammy Hagar is Van Halen Lite then no Eddie is basically a cover band.

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                        • MattM
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                          @Tago-Mago agreed on AC/DC. They’re both classic bands in each of their own ways.

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                          • goosehdG
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                            @Matt …the other band was “Creed”… 😞

                            That’s one that you look back on and ask yourself what the hell was I thinking.

                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                            • Tago MagoT
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                              One band I can’t imagine in a different lineup is Rush, which is ironic since Neil Peart only joined for their second album

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                              • MattM
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                                @goosehd that’s what it was… how the hell do you play on tour with Ozzy one night and Creed the next? Talk about hedging your bets.

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                                • scooterS
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                                  Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

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                                  • anodyneA
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                                    I just want to say this JTE release is worth a listen imo:

                                    Power is not to be dropped from a plane - Gregory Corso

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                                    • SKTS
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                                      @Matt cant remember where you posted that new Lemonheads song but I’ve been digging it and just realized Juliana Hatfield and J. Mascis are on it. Very cool

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                                      • goosehdG
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                                        @SKT https://forum.ironheart.co.uk//post/898825

                                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                        • endoE
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                                          pretty cool, from Brisbane, also their previous album is worth listening

                                          si tacuisses

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                                          • AetasA
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                                            This started as an Agenda of Australian government to promote gender diversity in music and art over a decade ago.
                                            Emerged to a lot of beautiful bands fronted by women. (FullFlowerMoonBand, Amyl and the Sniffers, Press Club , …etc.)
                                            Love it and pulled out Debbie and here band again.

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