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    Giobcn
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 24 Jan 2025

    Hello,

    I own an older pair of 301s in 21oz denim, and I'm interested in purchasing a new pair from Iron Heart.

    Could you please let me know which of the current models has the most similar fit/cut?

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      goosehd
      Mod Squad
      @Giobcn
      Joined: 8 Apr 2016

      @Giobcn My best guess is the 555’s. Maybe @neph93 or @Giles can chime in and confirm.

      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        Alex
        IHUK Crew
        @Giobcn
        Joined: 28 Sept 2009

        @Giobcn Self Edge sort of replaced the 301 with the 777, so I think they’d say that. The 555 is probably the other most similar in that it’s slim.

        Take a look here
        https://ironheart.co.uk/pages/our-core-cuts

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          Giobcn
          Raw and Unwashed
          @Alex
          Joined: 24 Jan 2025

          @Alex @goosehd Thank you very much!

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            sabergirl
            見習いボス
            Joined: 4 Oct 2013

            777 is the only one that really bears a similarity. Rise was super low on the 301, with an aggressive taper starting at the thigh.

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              jordanscollected
              啓蒙家
              Joined: 13 Nov 2018

              @Alex seeing @Mizmazzle post today regarding work shirt cut, I feel like I'm seeing more people gravitate towards work that were traditionally western. Are there any figures you'd be willing to share to corroborate or debunk this? %Wrk vs %wstrn sold? Are you ordering differently due to a swing?

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                Mizmazzle
                見習いボス
                @jordanscollected
                Joined: 29 Jun 2021

                @jordanscollected this is an interesting postulation. I 100% prefer a UHF in work cut. I love my westerns in denim or other unique fabrics. But work shirts are so comfortable and easy to wear that this is where I lean more and more these days.

                In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                  Tago Mago
                  Mod Squad
                  @Mizmazzle
                  Joined: 16 Jan 2021

                  @Mizmazzle Must be a 50+ thing. @Matt feels the same 😉

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                    pechelman
                    啓蒙家
                    Joined: 24 Jan 2022

                    @Mizmazzle Work shirts rarely work for me. When the length is right it's usually too wide and sloppy looking. When the width is right it's too short. Ive got a couple of work shirts among many westerns, so that's definitely my preference. I also have the good fortune of being semi-in-between-sizes for Western cuts, so I normally go up the half size to XL in UHF for a more comfy fit and down the half size to things in harder faced denser fabrics like denim or serge.

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                      Mizmazzle
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                      @Tago Mago
                      Joined: 29 Jun 2021

                      @Tago-Mago

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                      In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

                      last edited by Mizmazzle 18 Apr 2025, 15:14 T 1 Reply Last reply 18 Apr 2025, 15:26 Reply Quote 7
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                        Tago Mago
                        Mod Squad
                        @Mizmazzle
                        Joined: 16 Jan 2021

                        @Mizmazzle

                        Thanks grandpa

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                          Mizmazzle
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                          @Tago Mago
                          Joined: 29 Jun 2021

                          @Tago-Mago "...too much pie, that's your problem!"
                          haha

                          In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                            Tago Mago
                            Mod Squad
                            @Mizmazzle
                            Joined: 16 Jan 2021

                            @Mizmazzle my view on human relationships and life has been shaped by the Simpsons and married with children. Make of that what you will

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                              Mizmazzle
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                              @Tago Mago
                              Joined: 29 Jun 2021

                              @Tago-Mago growing up as a kid, those shows always aired back to back.
                              When I moved to South America, I learned to speak Spanish by watching The Simpsons down there in Spanish. I knew every episode by heart so it helped me immensely with understanding and learning new vocabulary.

                              In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                                SKT
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                                @Mizmazzle
                                Joined: 26 Aug 2019

                                @Mizmazzle how do you say “doh!” In Spanish?

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                                  Mizmazzle
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                                  @SKT
                                  Joined: 29 Jun 2021

                                  @SKT el doh-o.......obviously

                                  In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                                    goosehd
                                    Mod Squad
                                    @Tago Mago
                                    Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                    @Tago-Mago nope

                                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                      Tago Mago
                                      Mod Squad
                                      @goosehd
                                      Joined: 16 Jan 2021

                                      @goosehd obviously, you are young at heart

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                                        Matt
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                                        Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                                        Honestly I kind of just changed preferences. I like the clean look of no yokes, larger armpit openings, gussets etc. Probably because I’m so old as was pointed out.

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                                          Jett129
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                                          Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                                          I have 2 IH Work shirts,and the only reason I have them is because they have snaps. There have been some shirts where the work shirt sizing would’ve been better than the western shirt,and I ultimately passed on said shirt.

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