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IHSH-254-GRY - Top Dyed Heavy Kersey Western Shirt - Grey

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    yannis
    Haraki san Expert
    Joined: 26 Aug 2020

    @whacim. I think you are correct, that is why I suggested to trust the IH measurements intead of other retailers.

    last edited by 3 Jun 2024, 21:00 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      Ross
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 6 Dec 2021

      @Giles said in Measuring- Questions, Answers and Comments:

      Recently there have been a number of questions and "concerns" about posted measurements of our gear, both on ours and our retailers websites.

      Firstly, we measure the way we do because it is the way that the Japanese clothing business measures. In the early days, I measured like some of our then retailers, this resulted in us sending in sample requests to Haraki and when we got the first sample back, they were always "wrong". So on a visit to Japan with @Madame-Buttonfly we asked Tom san to show us the way that she and the factories measure. So now when we send in a sample request we are giving Tom san measurements that she can send straight to the workshop.

      I don't know why other western purveyors of Japanese Amekaji clothing measure differently to that, but they do. I suspect it is just a result of some early adopter doing it a particular way, and that just became the "norm".

      So there is likely to be a perceived variance in published sizing between us and some of our retailers. For most of them, and also Iron Heart Japan, measuring accurately is not so critical as it is for us. If you are selling something in a shop, the punter can try the stuff on and cares not what the measurements are but only whether it looks good in the mirror.

      We always remeasure when a new production run is received, I have no idea whether all our retailers do this or not.

      If I lived my life again, I would try and insist that our retailers measured Iron Heart like us and published the same measurement tables, but I did not and we are where we are.

      But please understand that our measurements are probably the most accurate you will find, they have to be, we basically only do online. The only problem you have is not knowing which batch a retailer holds.

      last edited by 4 Jun 2024, 07:42 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
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        Giles
        IHUK Crew
        @hgering27
        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

        @hgering27 said in IHSH-254-GRY - Top Dyed Heavy Kersey Western Shirt - Grey:

        all the other sites have the chest listed at about 25.5 while the IH measurements show it at 27.2, so its a fairly large difference

        Some shops measure the chest from the armpit side seam to the armpit side seam. To be an accurate measurement, this assumes that the measurement from seam to seam is the same when measuring the front and the back.

        Epic fail. Very rarely are these measurements the same, the back section is usually larger than the front measurement, so you need to lay the shirt flat and make sure that both the front and back sections are taught and measure that width, no seam to seam.

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

        last edited by Giles 6 Apr 2024, 07:53 4 Jun 2024, 07:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 6
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          doubletee
          Haraki san Prodigy
          Joined: 20 Feb 2023

          Just received and another wow moment on the fabric. Stunning. 3D almost!

          Thanks to my man @Travis for helping me with the size 🤘
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          last edited by 4 Jun 2024, 10:27 M T S 3 Replies Last reply 4 Jun 2024, 10:31 Reply Quote 11
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            Mizmazzle
            見習いボス
            @doubletee
            Joined: 29 Jun 2021

            @doubletee freaking stellar!!!!

            In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

            last edited by 4 Jun 2024, 10:31 D 1 Reply Last reply 4 Jun 2024, 10:35 Reply Quote 0
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              doubletee
              Haraki san Prodigy
              @Mizmazzle
              Joined: 20 Feb 2023

              @Mizmazzle thanks man 🙌

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                Travis
                @doubletee
                Joined: 2 May 2024

                @doubletee Oooooooooohhh
                Check you out! Man that looks dope!!!👌
                You're tempting me to get one....these are tight!

                Looks good on you though my guy 🤙😎

                last edited by 4 Jun 2024, 12:15 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                  Germinal
                  Joined: 15 Jan 2024

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                  In 4XL. The measurements on the website are accurate. I like my shirt to be a bit loose especially western shirt as I am not super muscular 😅. Love it

                  last edited by 5 Jun 2024, 15:06 S 1 Reply Last reply 5 Jun 2024, 22:06 Reply Quote 3
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                    Supersonic
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    @Germinal
                    Joined: 22 Nov 2023

                    @Germinal I like it man, relaxed vibes! Enjoy

                    last edited by 5 Jun 2024, 22:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                      Supersonic
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      @doubletee
                      Joined: 22 Nov 2023

                      @doubletee 🔥

                      last edited by 5 Jun 2024, 22:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                        northsouthdenimguy
                        Haraki san Expert
                        Joined: 27 Nov 2022

                        This shirt is soooo soft, XXXL is 🙌🏻IMG_7756.jpeg

                        last edited by 5 Jun 2024, 22:27 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 7
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                          CosmoSix5
                          Haraki san Prodigy
                          Joined: 4 Sept 2023

                          How is this different than flannel? It looks very "flannely" lol. I may haveade up a word? Looks great either way

                          WTB Brund Flannel 2 or 3x

                          last edited by 18 Jun 2024, 00:34 G 1 Reply Last reply 18 Jun 2024, 00:45 Reply Quote 0
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                            goosehd
                            Mod Squad
                            @CosmoSix5
                            Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                            @CosmoSix5 This is a very good summation of Kersey:

                            @Alex said in IHSH-208 - Kersey Western:
                            IHSH-208 - Kersey Western

                            ** Please Note: Our version is 100% cotton, but**:

                            Kersey is a kind of coarse woollen cloth that was an important component of the textile trade in Medieval England.

                            It derives its name from kersey yarn and ultimately from the village of Kersey, Suffolk, having presumably originated in that region. However the cloth was made in many places. It was being woven as early as 1262 in Andover, Hampshire, where regulations prohibited the inclusion of Spanish wool in kerseys.[1] By 1475, the West Riding of Yorkshire including Calderdale was also a major producer, while Devon and Somerset were major producers and exporters until the manufacture later moved to serge making. Kersey was a lighter weight cloth than broadcloth. English kerseys were widely exported to central Europe[2] and other places: a surviving business letter[3] from the end of the 16th century recommends to trade kerseys for good wine on the Canary Islands.

                            Kersey yarns were spun in large gauges (thicknesses) from inferior carded wool, and made thick and sturdy cloth. Kersey was a warp-backed, twill-weave cloth woven on a four-treadle loom.

                            USD325

                            XS-XXXL

                            Complete this form if you would like to know when this arrives at IHUK.

                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                            last edited by goosehd 18 Jun 2024, 00:45 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
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                              CosmoSix5
                              Haraki san Prodigy
                              Joined: 4 Sept 2023

                              I just received this shirt from James Dant in Indianapolis. I only did a quick "does it fit" but the fabric is really cool. It looks amazing. I'm glad I didn't get it to be a flannel type piece because it's not that. Looking forward to putting it through its paces.

                              WTB Brund Flannel 2 or 3x

                              last edited by 18 Oct 2024, 19:48 RubyRaeR 1 Reply Last reply 18 Oct 2024, 20:55 Reply Quote 0
                              • RubyRaeR
                                RubyRae
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                @CosmoSix5
                                Joined: 18 Jan 2024

                                @CosmoSix5 It's still one of my favorite IH shirts hands down. Unique texture and also the perfect fit for me. Enjoy!

                                last edited by 18 Oct 2024, 20:55 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                                  CosmoSix5
                                  Haraki san Prodigy
                                  Joined: 4 Sept 2023

                                  Worn to the football game tonight. Cosmo's definition of this awesome fabric is a super soft 3ish wale corduroy.
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                                  WTB Brund Flannel 2 or 3x

                                  last edited by 18 Oct 2024, 22:46 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                                  • LeDuc_RWL
                                    LeDuc_RW
                                    Haraki san Student
                                    Joined: 6 Mar 2021

                                    Hands down my favorite non fading IH piece gotta be the gray Kersey. Love this material and how the black/grey works together on this one vs the camel or indigo
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                                    last edited by LeDuc_RW 22 Mar 2025, 16:31 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 4
                                    • FilsonF
                                      Filson
                                      Joined: 2 Feb 2025

                                      Order placed, can't wait 😃

                                      last edited by 24 Mar 2025, 08:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                      • FilsonF
                                        Filson
                                        Joined: 2 Feb 2025

                                        It just arrived, as if it was tailor-made 🙂

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                                        • FilsonF
                                          Filson
                                          Joined: 2 Feb 2025

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