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IHSH-254-GRY - Top Dyed Heavy Kersey Western Shirt - Grey

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    hgering27
    Raw and Unwashed
    @Germinal
    Joined: 16 Mar 2021

    @Germinal and hows the fit for you? I keep on seeing conflicting measures when ive seen it on other websites that carry the 4xl... whats your preferred chest size on a shirt?

    instagram: @harrisongering

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      yannis
      Haraki san Expert
      Joined: 26 Aug 2020

      @hgering27 . I will competely trust the IH website measurements over any other retailer. They are consistently the most accurate by miles

      last edited by 3 Jun 2024, 16:57 H 1 Reply Last reply 3 Jun 2024, 18:05 Reply Quote 0
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        hgering27
        Raw and Unwashed
        @yannis
        Joined: 16 Mar 2021

        @yannis i agree theyre always on top of it, ive just never seen a chest measure on a shirt this big from them so i checked a few other sites for comparison. all the other sites have the chest listed at about 25.5 while the IH measurements show it at 27.2, so its a fairly large difference

        instagram: @harrisongering

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          yannis
          Haraki san Expert
          Joined: 26 Aug 2020

          You can always call and they will reconfirm and pick a shirt as close as to your ideal measurements...

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            whacim
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 15 Jan 2024

            @yannis Maybe someone from IH can confirm but my anecdotal observation has been that sizing isn't always consistent across different production runs. The retailers with different sizing might not have updated the measurements displayed from the prior release.

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              yannis
              Haraki san Expert
              Joined: 26 Aug 2020

              @whacim. I think you are correct, that is why I suggested to trust the IH measurements intead of other retailers.

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                Ross
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 6 Dec 2021

                @Giles said in Measuring- Questions, Answers and Comments:

                Recently there have been a number of questions and "concerns" about posted measurements of our gear, both on ours and our retailers websites.

                Firstly, we measure the way we do because it is the way that the Japanese clothing business measures. In the early days, I measured like some of our then retailers, this resulted in us sending in sample requests to Haraki and when we got the first sample back, they were always "wrong". So on a visit to Japan with @Madame-Buttonfly we asked Tom san to show us the way that she and the factories measure. So now when we send in a sample request we are giving Tom san measurements that she can send straight to the workshop.

                I don't know why other western purveyors of Japanese Amekaji clothing measure differently to that, but they do. I suspect it is just a result of some early adopter doing it a particular way, and that just became the "norm".

                So there is likely to be a perceived variance in published sizing between us and some of our retailers. For most of them, and also Iron Heart Japan, measuring accurately is not so critical as it is for us. If you are selling something in a shop, the punter can try the stuff on and cares not what the measurements are but only whether it looks good in the mirror.

                We always remeasure when a new production run is received, I have no idea whether all our retailers do this or not.

                If I lived my life again, I would try and insist that our retailers measured Iron Heart like us and published the same measurement tables, but I did not and we are where we are.

                But please understand that our measurements are probably the most accurate you will find, they have to be, we basically only do online. The only problem you have is not knowing which batch a retailer holds.

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                  Giles
                  IHUK Crew
                  @hgering27
                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                  @hgering27 said in IHSH-254-GRY - Top Dyed Heavy Kersey Western Shirt - Grey:

                  all the other sites have the chest listed at about 25.5 while the IH measurements show it at 27.2, so its a fairly large difference

                  Some shops measure the chest from the armpit side seam to the armpit side seam. To be an accurate measurement, this assumes that the measurement from seam to seam is the same when measuring the front and the back.

                  Epic fail. Very rarely are these measurements the same, the back section is usually larger than the front measurement, so you need to lay the shirt flat and make sure that both the front and back sections are taught and measure that width, no seam to seam.

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                  last edited by Giles 6 Apr 2024, 07:53 4 Jun 2024, 07:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 6
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                    doubletee
                    Haraki san Prodigy
                    Joined: 20 Feb 2023

                    Just received and another wow moment on the fabric. Stunning. 3D almost!

                    Thanks to my man @Travis for helping me with the size 🤘
                    IMG_9375.jpeg

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                      Mizmazzle
                      見習いボス
                      @doubletee
                      Joined: 29 Jun 2021

                      @doubletee freaking stellar!!!!

                      In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

                      last edited by 4 Jun 2024, 10:31 D 1 Reply Last reply 4 Jun 2024, 10:35 Reply Quote 0
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                        doubletee
                        Haraki san Prodigy
                        @Mizmazzle
                        Joined: 20 Feb 2023

                        @Mizmazzle thanks man 🙌

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                          Travis
                          @doubletee
                          Joined: 2 May 2024

                          @doubletee Oooooooooohhh
                          Check you out! Man that looks dope!!!👌
                          You're tempting me to get one....these are tight!

                          Looks good on you though my guy 🤙😎

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                            Germinal
                            Joined: 15 Jan 2024

                            IMG_2585.jpeg

                            In 4XL. The measurements on the website are accurate. I like my shirt to be a bit loose especially western shirt as I am not super muscular 😅. Love it

                            last edited by 5 Jun 2024, 15:06 S 1 Reply Last reply 5 Jun 2024, 22:06 Reply Quote 3
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                              Supersonic
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              @Germinal
                              Joined: 22 Nov 2023

                              @Germinal I like it man, relaxed vibes! Enjoy

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                                Supersonic
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                @doubletee
                                Joined: 22 Nov 2023

                                @doubletee 🔥

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                                • northsouthdenimguyN
                                  northsouthdenimguy
                                  Haraki san Expert
                                  Joined: 27 Nov 2022

                                  This shirt is soooo soft, XXXL is 🙌🏻IMG_7756.jpeg

                                  last edited by 5 Jun 2024, 22:27 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 7
                                  • CosmoSix5C
                                    CosmoSix5
                                    Haraki san Prodigy
                                    Joined: 4 Sept 2023

                                    How is this different than flannel? It looks very "flannely" lol. I may haveade up a word? Looks great either way

                                    WTB Brund Flannel 2 or 3x

                                    last edited by 18 Jun 2024, 00:34 goosehdG 1 Reply Last reply 18 Jun 2024, 00:45 Reply Quote 0
                                    • goosehdG
                                      goosehd
                                      Mod Squad
                                      @CosmoSix5
                                      Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                      @CosmoSix5 This is a very good summation of Kersey:

                                      @Alex said in IHSH-208 - Kersey Western:
                                      IHSH-208 - Kersey Western

                                      ** Please Note: Our version is 100% cotton, but**:

                                      Kersey is a kind of coarse woollen cloth that was an important component of the textile trade in Medieval England.

                                      It derives its name from kersey yarn and ultimately from the village of Kersey, Suffolk, having presumably originated in that region. However the cloth was made in many places. It was being woven as early as 1262 in Andover, Hampshire, where regulations prohibited the inclusion of Spanish wool in kerseys.[1] By 1475, the West Riding of Yorkshire including Calderdale was also a major producer, while Devon and Somerset were major producers and exporters until the manufacture later moved to serge making. Kersey was a lighter weight cloth than broadcloth. English kerseys were widely exported to central Europe[2] and other places: a surviving business letter[3] from the end of the 16th century recommends to trade kerseys for good wine on the Canary Islands.

                                      Kersey yarns were spun in large gauges (thicknesses) from inferior carded wool, and made thick and sturdy cloth. Kersey was a warp-backed, twill-weave cloth woven on a four-treadle loom.

                                      USD325

                                      XS-XXXL

                                      Complete this form if you would like to know when this arrives at IHUK.

                                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                                      last edited by goosehd 18 Jun 2024, 00:45 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                                      • CosmoSix5C
                                        CosmoSix5
                                        Haraki san Prodigy
                                        Joined: 4 Sept 2023

                                        I just received this shirt from James Dant in Indianapolis. I only did a quick "does it fit" but the fabric is really cool. It looks amazing. I'm glad I didn't get it to be a flannel type piece because it's not that. Looking forward to putting it through its paces.

                                        WTB Brund Flannel 2 or 3x

                                        last edited by 18 Oct 2024, 19:48 RubyRaeR 1 Reply Last reply 18 Oct 2024, 20:55 Reply Quote 0
                                        • RubyRaeR
                                          RubyRae
                                          Raw and Unwashed
                                          @CosmoSix5
                                          Joined: 18 Jan 2024

                                          @CosmoSix5 It's still one of my favorite IH shirts hands down. Unique texture and also the perfect fit for me. Enjoy!

                                          last edited by 18 Oct 2024, 20:55 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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