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    nytimes_gaiden
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 13 Sept 2022

    Yeah to add on to what others have said, don’t think of the weights like the tog number on a duvet. They are used as short hand but often secondary to the more interesting features of the denim

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      RobeOfTheMagi
      Haraki san Expert
      Joined: 15 Apr 2024

      Yeah, for example I don't really care if my lefty Type 3 is 19 or 21 oz. The denim is just the most beautiful fabric I've ever owned ( I just wish there was a shorter jacket made from 19oz left hand twill).

      last edited by RobeOfTheMagi 23 May 2024, 10:32 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        mclaincausey
        見習いボス
        @Giles
        Joined: 12 Apr 2013

        @Giles @Alex here’s a thought: What if there was a comparison grid with the weights on the X axis and characteristics such as volume, weight, breathability, fade contrast, etc on the Y axis? Descriptors or Harvey balls could populate the grid to give an easy comparative view of the denims side by side. This could live under Our Denims on the website. This in my mind would be a very helpful aid for virtual shoppers.

        Yes I understand some of this is perhaps subjective.

        Think it, be it.

        last edited by mclaincausey 23 May 2024, 11:04 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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          Giles
          IHUK Crew
          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

          We don’t want virtual shoppers, we want real ones 😂

          It’s an @alex decision, but a load of those metrics you mention are subjective. And, this is the first time we have been asked this question in 22 years…. Not saying that it is not a sensible question, but is the juice worth the squeeze?

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            mclaincausey
            見習いボス
            @Giles
            Joined: 12 Apr 2013

            @Giles literally? 🤣

            Think it, be it.

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              Giles
              IHUK Crew
              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

              Just added to my response above

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                goosehd
                Mod Squad
                Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                Personally, I have thoroughly enjoyed my journey with the different IH denim weights and kind of glad I stumbled through. In my mind I have a grid that works for me and a few that are absolute standouts.

                If someone would have told me that x is better than y, and I had listened, I would have missed out on so many great denim weights.

                As has been stated, it’s all subjective. My favourite isn’t everyone’s.

                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                last edited by goosehd 23 May 2024, 11:27 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
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                  goosehd
                  Mod Squad
                  Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                  …and then to complicate things further, I have preferences in weight, cut, and inseam lengths (to facilitate rolling and what style roll).

                  It’s all a journey…

                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                  last edited by goosehd 23 May 2024, 11:45 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    jocuz07
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 13 May 2024

                    So what I'm hearing is that its all personal choice and subjective judgement... So I just need to buy a pair of each fabric and see for myself ;p

                    I'm thinking 16oz will probably have to be next choice then since I'm curious to see how they compare with the 21 and the others will be lined up next

                    last edited by 23 May 2024, 13:43 D M 2 Replies Last reply 23 May 2024, 14:28 Reply Quote 2
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                      Eza
                      Joined: 1 May 2024

                      I think some people feel the 21oz might be too hot for certain climates or purposes and having the option for different weighs means you can wear them for different things. Like the engineer jeans with the double knee I mean that's 42oz so if you are doing hard-core work on the farm you're golden. And then you might want to wear jeans with a sports coat and you want a bit lighter jeans to coincide with the sports jacket look...

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                        drewfonse
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 20 Nov 2023

                        Don’t sleep on the 14 oz. Still look fabulous and are ultra comfortable form the get go.

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                          DeeDee85
                          啓蒙家
                          @drewfonse
                          Joined: 5 Jun 2023

                          @drewfonse I’m about 15 wears into my first pair of 14oz after wearing 21oz all winter and I’m loving them.. a little crispier but still so comfy

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                            goosehd
                            Mod Squad
                            @Eza
                            Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                            @Eza Weight does not correlate to breathability. 21oz is pretty breathable and one of those pairs that many people wear year round. I find that 19oz is less wearable in hotter temps. than the 21's.

                            Just my $.02.

                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                            last edited by 23 May 2024, 14:25 E 1 Reply Last reply 23 May 2024, 14:29 Reply Quote 2
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                              drewfonse
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              @jocuz07
                              Joined: 20 Nov 2023

                              @jocuz07

                              The 16 oz is interesting. Very very different from the flagship 21. I actually prefer the feel and look of the 18oz vintage if you want an alternative to the 21. Different strokes though….

                              last edited by 23 May 2024, 14:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                drewfonse
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                @DeeDee85
                                Joined: 20 Nov 2023

                                @DeeDee85

                                I could make the argument with a straight face that the different 14oz I have are my favorites.

                                last edited by 23 May 2024, 14:29 D 1 Reply Last reply 23 May 2024, 14:31 Reply Quote 1
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                                  Eza
                                  @goosehd
                                  Joined: 1 May 2024

                                  @goosehd don't have 19oz for me I'm just like that cheap women's store "Forever 21" LOL. But when I ask denim heads that's what they tell me, I typically tell them go big or go home...

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                                    DeeDee85
                                    啓蒙家
                                    @drewfonse
                                    Joined: 5 Jun 2023

                                    @drewfonse I can believe it! A pair of 14oz indigo/black is definitely on the horizon for me after loving the standard indigo

                                    last edited by 23 May 2024, 14:31 D 1 Reply Last reply 23 May 2024, 14:37 Reply Quote 1
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                                      drewfonse
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      @DeeDee85
                                      Joined: 20 Nov 2023

                                      @DeeDee85

                                      Dude.

                                      Full disclosure, I have the 142s, the SBR, the indigo black, all in 14oz, and the OD is on its way. All awesome.

                                      I wore the ib to work yesterday, I cycle in, and they are stunning in full sun. Purple-y and creasy. And just as comfortable as the others.

                                      last edited by drewfonse 23 May 2024, 14:37 D 1 Reply Last reply 23 May 2024, 14:43 Reply Quote 0
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                                        DeeDee85
                                        啓蒙家
                                        @drewfonse
                                        Joined: 5 Jun 2023

                                        @drewfonse SOLD 😃

                                        last edited by 23 May 2024, 14:43 D 1 Reply Last reply 23 May 2024, 15:31 Reply Quote 0
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                                          AdamJ
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 29 Jun 2017

                                          I snubbed the 14oz for years under the illusion it was inferior after squeezing myself in to 21oz SBG denim. Didn't know what I was missing 'till I got the 14oz broken twill, it's all I've been wearing since Sept '23

                                          Other factors may have forced the absence of SBG, namely my waistline 😦

                                          The devil is in the detail..

                                          last edited by AdamJ 23 May 2024, 14:45 D 1 Reply Last reply 23 May 2024, 15:22 Reply Quote 0
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