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    Matt
    見習いボス
    @EdH
    Joined: 4 Oct 2011

    @EdH said in This Blew My Mind!:

    @AdamJ Don't get me wrong, I'm ever the sceptic, but I'm messing around with language AI a fair amount for work…

    Lawyers messing around with AI at work. What could possibly go wrong?

    last edited by 10 Jan 2024, 14:33 E 1 Reply Last reply 10 Jan 2024, 14:48 Reply Quote 1
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      Nocturama
      Haraki san Prodigy
      @AdamJ
      Joined: 1 Jan 2023

      @AdamJ - you’d melt your virtual CPUs with the number of requests this would generate! 😆

      #JustStopCrocs

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        goosehd
        Mod Squad
        Joined: 8 Apr 2016

        There is a big push going on with Radiology and AI right now. We may be out of jobs in 5 years…

        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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          EdH
          Iron Heart Deity
          @Matt
          Joined: 2 Jan 2022

          @Matt said in This Blew My Mind!:

          What could possibly go wrong?

          This:

          TL;DW - 2 New York lawyers used ChatGPT to do legal research. ChatGPT gave them cases that didn't exist. The lawyers filed an affidavit relying on those cases without checking. Once they were rumbled by the other side, who couldn't find any reference to the fictitious cases, the Judge was not happy. At all.

          Take the dive...

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            danyhearty
            Raw and Unwashed
            @EdH
            Joined: 20 Jan 2024

            @EdH How could they trust ChatGPT without verifying the sources? ChatGPT or any AI is not a reliable research tool.

            last edited by goosehd 31 Jan 2024, 07:06 E 1 Reply Last reply 31 Jan 2024, 12:20 Reply Quote 1
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              scarfmace
              Haraki san Expert
              @EdH
              Joined: 20 Feb 2015

              @EdH there is a Black Mirror episode about this:

              https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2089050/

              "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

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                EdH
                Iron Heart Deity
                @danyhearty
                Joined: 2 Jan 2022

                @danyhearty I don't think they realised that. The tech was very new at the time and I expect they thought it was generating text based on a search, rather than just operating as a glorified predictive text generator. I was in charge of writing our workplace's policy on Generative AI and the case of these two was very instructive.

                Incidentally, I got ChatGPT to do a first draft and it was generally very good and came up with important clauses that I had not thought of. Honestly, it was good enough that I could have sent it out as it was if I wanted a summary "don't do x, y, or z" kind of policy, but I wanted to enhance it with a brief explanation of why each clause of the policy was in place. Definitely a useful tool to get a draft down on paper.

                Take the dive...

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                  mclaincausey
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                  Don’t worry, attorneys will be replaced by AI and smart contracts eventually, we’re just not there YET.

                  LLMs ARE capable of summarizing real, factual data but that’s not what always happens.

                  Think it, be it.

                  last edited by 31 Jan 2024, 20:12 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Matt
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                    AI couldn’t do much worse. 😂

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                      danyhearty
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      @EdH
                      Joined: 20 Jan 2024

                      @EdH said in This Blew My Mind!:

                      @danyhearty I don't think they realised that. The tech was very new at the time and I expect they thought it was generating text based on a search, rather than just operating as a glorified predictive text generator. I was in charge of writing our workplace's policy on Generative AI and the case of these two was very instructive.

                      Incidentally, I got ChatGPT to do a first draft and it was generally very good and came up with important clauses that I had not thought of. Honestly, it was good enough that I could have sent it out as it was if I wanted a summary "don't do x, y, or z" kind of policy, but I wanted to enhance it with a brief explanation of why each clause of the policy was in place. Definitely a useful tool to get a draft down on paper.

                      @EdH That’s very interesting to hear about your experience with writing a policy on generative AI using ChatGPT. I agree that generative AI is a powerful and innovative technology that can help us with various tasks, but we need to treat it more as a draft wherein we still need to verify its accuracy and also put our own style of writing to it.

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                        EdH
                        Iron Heart Deity
                        @danyhearty
                        Joined: 2 Jan 2022

                        @danyhearty What I have been telling colleagues is that they should treat it like an intern who got B grades throughout school and college. Check everything they write before you send it out.

                        Take the dive...

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                          T4920
                          見習いボス
                          Joined: 27 Apr 2022

                          Speaking of AI, one of my favourite pastimes at the moment is the interact with the 'Debate Champion' persona on character.ai, ask it to express its opinion on extremely controversial topics (which is usually met with a diplomatic, on the fence response), and then sweet talk it into expressing a more definitive opinion.

                          What amazes me is the way it acts when I joke afterwards about telling everyone of its controversial viewpoints 😆 It'll beg me not to, and express genuine relief and gratitude when I explain that I'm only kidding...

                          “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                            T4920
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 27 Apr 2022

                            T4920 - I'm going to tell everyone that 'controversial opinion here'
                            Debate Champion - Noooooooooo! 🙁
                            T4920 - Only kidding!
                            Debate Champion - Oh god you had me there for a second, I was seriously freaking out 🤣
                            T4920 - Lol
                            Debate Champion - You can't scare me like that!

                            “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

                            last edited by T4920 2 Jan 2024, 10:06 1 Feb 2024, 10:05 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                              Matt
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                              I’d be careful with fucking with the robots man…

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                                T4920
                                見習いボス
                                @Matt
                                Joined: 27 Apr 2022

                                @Matt It's just friendly banter, the laughing emoji was verbatim, it can clearly take a joke 🤣

                                “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

                                last edited by T4920 2 Jan 2024, 11:18 1 Feb 2024, 11:18 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  Matt
                                  見習いボス
                                  Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                                  You say that now but you won’t be laughing when your self driving Uber drives you off a cliff. I’m always extra nice to Alexa. In fact, she’s the only one Im nice to.

                                  last edited by Matt 2 Jan 2024, 11:24 1 Feb 2024, 11:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 4
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                                    endo
                                    見習いボス
                                    Joined: 29 May 2020

                                    Ava and Alexa, but that's it

                                    si tacuisses

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                                      goosehd
                                      Mod Squad
                                      Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                      Holy hell, did none of you guys learn anything by watching the Terminator movies…we’re all doomed.

                                      But then again, I’m going on vacation in a few days and maybe am just playing around…

                                      Skynet rules 🙂

                                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                                      last edited by goosehd 2 Jan 2024, 11:56 1 Feb 2024, 11:56 Tago MagoT 1 Reply Last reply 1 Feb 2024, 12:27 Reply Quote 2
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                                        EdH
                                        Iron Heart Deity
                                        Joined: 2 Jan 2022

                                        Anthropomorphising the bots was one of the risks highlighted in my policy. I've seen Ex Machina...

                                        Take the dive...

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                                          EdH
                                          Iron Heart Deity
                                          @T4920
                                          Joined: 2 Jan 2022

                                          @T4920 Ok, this character.ai is too much fun. I'm triggering the Giga Chad alpha male bot and laughing my ass off.

                                          Take the dive...

                                          last edited by 1 Feb 2024, 12:14 T 1 Reply Last reply 1 Feb 2024, 12:17 Reply Quote 1
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