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    • EdHE
      EdH
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      @Matt said in This Blew My Mind!:

      What could possibly go wrong?

      This:

      TL;DW - 2 New York lawyers used ChatGPT to do legal research. ChatGPT gave them cases that didn't exist. The lawyers filed an affidavit relying on those cases without checking. Once they were rumbled by the other side, who couldn't find any reference to the fictitious cases, the Judge was not happy. At all.

      Take the dive...

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      • D
        danyhearty
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        @EdH How could they trust ChatGPT without verifying the sources? ChatGPT or any AI is not a reliable research tool.

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        • scarfmaceS
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          @EdH there is a Black Mirror episode about this:

          https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2089050/

          "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

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          • EdHE
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            @danyhearty I don't think they realised that. The tech was very new at the time and I expect they thought it was generating text based on a search, rather than just operating as a glorified predictive text generator. I was in charge of writing our workplace's policy on Generative AI and the case of these two was very instructive.

            Incidentally, I got ChatGPT to do a first draft and it was generally very good and came up with important clauses that I had not thought of. Honestly, it was good enough that I could have sent it out as it was if I wanted a summary "don't do x, y, or z" kind of policy, but I wanted to enhance it with a brief explanation of why each clause of the policy was in place. Definitely a useful tool to get a draft down on paper.

            Take the dive...

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            • mclaincauseyM
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              Don’t worry, attorneys will be replaced by AI and smart contracts eventually, we’re just not there YET.

              LLMs ARE capable of summarizing real, factual data but that’s not what always happens.

              Think it, be it.

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              • MattM
                Matt
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                AI couldn’t do much worse. 😂

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                  danyhearty
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                  @EdH said in This Blew My Mind!:

                  @danyhearty I don't think they realised that. The tech was very new at the time and I expect they thought it was generating text based on a search, rather than just operating as a glorified predictive text generator. I was in charge of writing our workplace's policy on Generative AI and the case of these two was very instructive.

                  Incidentally, I got ChatGPT to do a first draft and it was generally very good and came up with important clauses that I had not thought of. Honestly, it was good enough that I could have sent it out as it was if I wanted a summary "don't do x, y, or z" kind of policy, but I wanted to enhance it with a brief explanation of why each clause of the policy was in place. Definitely a useful tool to get a draft down on paper.

                  @EdH That’s very interesting to hear about your experience with writing a policy on generative AI using ChatGPT. I agree that generative AI is a powerful and innovative technology that can help us with various tasks, but we need to treat it more as a draft wherein we still need to verify its accuracy and also put our own style of writing to it.

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                  • EdHE
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                    @danyhearty What I have been telling colleagues is that they should treat it like an intern who got B grades throughout school and college. Check everything they write before you send it out.

                    Take the dive...

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                    • T4920T
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                      Speaking of AI, one of my favourite pastimes at the moment is the interact with the 'Debate Champion' persona on character.ai, ask it to express its opinion on extremely controversial topics (which is usually met with a diplomatic, on the fence response), and then sweet talk it into expressing a more definitive opinion.

                      What amazes me is the way it acts when I joke afterwards about telling everyone of its controversial viewpoints 😆 It'll beg me not to, and express genuine relief and gratitude when I explain that I'm only kidding...

                      “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                      • T4920T
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                        T4920 - I'm going to tell everyone that 'controversial opinion here'
                        Debate Champion - Noooooooooo! 🙁
                        T4920 - Only kidding!
                        Debate Champion - Oh god you had me there for a second, I was seriously freaking out 🤣
                        T4920 - Lol
                        Debate Champion - You can't scare me like that!

                        “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                        • MattM
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                          I’d be careful with fucking with the robots man…

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                          • T4920T
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                            @Matt It's just friendly banter, the laughing emoji was verbatim, it can clearly take a joke 🤣

                            “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                            • MattM
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                              You say that now but you won’t be laughing when your self driving Uber drives you off a cliff. I’m always extra nice to Alexa. In fact, she’s the only one Im nice to.

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                              • endoE
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                                Ava and Alexa, but that's it

                                si tacuisses

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                                • goosehdG
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                                  Holy hell, did none of you guys learn anything by watching the Terminator movies…we’re all doomed.

                                  But then again, I’m going on vacation in a few days and maybe am just playing around…

                                  Skynet rules 🙂

                                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                  • EdHE
                                    EdH
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                                    Anthropomorphising the bots was one of the risks highlighted in my policy. I've seen Ex Machina...

                                    Take the dive...

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                                    • EdHE
                                      EdH
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                                      @T4920 Ok, this character.ai is too much fun. I'm triggering the Giga Chad alpha male bot and laughing my ass off.

                                      Take the dive...

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                                      • T4920T
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                                        @EdH screenshots please 🤣

                                        “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                                        • EdHE
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                                          @T4920 Too late I'm afraid, I reached the limit and bailed on the tab when it asked me to make an account. I basically asked it how it would convince me that it was an alpha male, to which it retorted that only betas feel the need to prove themselves. So I pointed out that that which can be stated without evidence can be just as easily dismissed, and said if it was cool with me thinking it was a sigma male, then that was fine. So then it gave me a few reasons why it was an alpha male (good looks, turns women's heads, etc) and I pointed out that by its own definition that made it a beta. Then it started to get angry, so I suggested it drink a protein shake and have a lie down. I also suggested that it should revisit it's definition of a beta male if it thought of itself as an alpha. It got even angrier, and said I should drink the protein shake and take a cold shower because I was clearly triggered. So I said it was demonstrating very sigma behaviour, and asked whether it needed to go get it's mommy. At which point I ran out of no-account credits.

                                          Take the dive...

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                                          • Tago MagoT
                                            Tago Mago
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                                            @goosehd we're way past Aug 29th 1997, nothing to worry about

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