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    IH-526L - 19oz Left-Hand Twill Selvedge Denim Type III - Indigo

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    • goosehdG
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      @LandoCal126-0 said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

      Why do my jeans have a leg twist?

      "Many vintage jeans suffer from leg-twist. This is simply a natural adjustment of the fabric, which tends to follow the direction of the weave. Stefano Aldighieri, Director of Fabric & Finishing at LS&Co. explains it thus: “Levi’s® denim were mostly right hand twills; the twill line rises to the right. During the weaving process you basically ‘force’ the fabric to be straight, perpendicular to the selvage, but at the same time you give it this direction in the construction. You lay and cut the fabric; in the early days LS&Co. patterns were cut straight along the selvage. When you wash the garments, the fabric will try to follow the direction of the weave and will pull in that direction… hence the twisted legs, the result of the movement of fabric. Because Lee started to use left hand weave denims, their legs would twist the other way.” Leg twist was eliminated in the 1970s by skewing (which contorts denim to its after-wash shape)- and later revived with Levi’s® Red and Engineered jeans." - Via oki-ni

      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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      • GilesG
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        https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/topic/2029/leg-twist-and-skew-in-denim

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • TobiT
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          I can confirm some arm-twisting going on at the RH side... 😉

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          • S
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            • MizmazzleM
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              @Setanta brohem!!! That right there is exactly how a type 3 should fit!!

              In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                @Mizmazzle said in IH-526L - 19oz Left-Hand Twill Selvedge Denim Type III - Indigo:

                @Setanta brohem!!! That right there is exactly how a type 3 should fit!!

                Thank you kindly! I wasn't sure at first... but thanks to Josh at IH for sorting me out correctly! Next time I will have to include my dog in the pic, which looks a lot like yours!

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                • pechelmanP
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                  for anyone who missed out, there may or may not be a freshly returned Large from me on the website right now :).

                  Would rather someone here snag it if possible.

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                  • MizmazzleM
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                    @Setanta oh yeah?? Is your dog a long haired German shepherd too??

                    In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                    • GrahamG
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                      Shrink test on the latest batch of 526L's

                      Screenshot 2023-07-27 at 12.37.48.png

                      @gmac_ironheart
                      🤘

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                      • pechelmanP
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                        Thanks for doing that @Graham !

                        Gives me some good confidence that most or all of the shrink in my jacket is probably gone after its soak.

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                        • S
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                          @Mizmazzle yeh mon almost two years old
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                          and just to keep this Lefty-related..ac3c20b5-4194-49c3-860f-a5dff3f37e69.jpg

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                          • MizmazzleM
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                            @Setanta couple of beauties!! Best dogs ever!! And by all accounts, best jacket ever!!!

                            In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                            • T4920T
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                              @Graham good to know!

                              Just a thought though, I feel like a shrink test using a regular spin cycle is more likely to yield results more in line with what the average consumer will experience when washing this jacket.

                              I consider myself seriously into this stuff, but still groan at the idea of washing a jacket with no spin and waiting 2ish days for it to fully drip dry...

                              “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                              • goosehdG
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                                @T4920 Spinning clothes in the washing machine can lead to some very serious streaks and marbling on denim...

                                Top two things when washing are to pre soak and pull the denim out before the spin cycle if you can't turn it off.

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                • AlexA
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                                  @T4920 I understand your point, but I would be groaning way more if I ruined my jacket by washing it too aggressively. We use some logic when determining how to shrink-test things, and that is how we would recommend washing it to a customer. In this case, I would not be recommending spinning the jacket. It's one of the crunchiest denim we make, in my opinion, which makes it one of the more prone to damage. I also don't think that we should start ruining clothes in the name of science by trying to maximise shrinkage with higher temps or faster spins.

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                                  • T4920T
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                                    @Alex @goosehd Valid points gents, makes perfect sense.

                                    “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                                    • KasiK
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                                      What Alex said💯 right.

                                      I have only soak twice.

                                      If I do wash it I will soak it, for 1 hour then wash it with no spin

                                      The world's insane
                                      While you drink champagne
                                      And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                                      • OaktaviaO
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                                        Last wash I threw mine in the dryer 😱 but it was fine and only because I have already broken it tf in. Would not recommend for a new jacket or really recommended at all. I took a risk and got lucky.

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                                        "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

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                                        • Daniel SanD
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                                          Washed mine with program for sensitive clothing and max. 400 rpm spin. No problem at all.
                                          Wash all my denim this way , works fine.
                                          The MOST important thing is to soak before!!

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                                          • goosehdG
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                                            @Alex said in IH-526L - 19oz Left-Hand Twill Selvedge Denim Type III - Indigo:

                                            @T4920 I understand your point, but I would be groaning way more if I ruined my jacket by washing it too aggressively. We use some logic when determining how to shrink-test things, and that is how we would recommend washing it to a customer. In this case, I would not be recommending spinning the jacket. It's one of the crunchiest denim we make, in my opinion, which makes it one of the more prone to damage. I also don't think that we should start ruining clothes in the name of science by trying to maximise shrinkage with higher temps or faster spins.

                                            Sage advice and a few things to add:

                                            1. Denim and care are a personal thing and many tend to do things differently. Sometimes there are successes and sometimes there are failures.
                                            2. Can you deal with the failures that may occur when the recommended care guidelines are not followed? Premature wear, holes, streaking, marbling, etc.
                                            3. Can you afford to write the item off or get a new one if the item is damaged?
                                            4. Is the item available to repurchase?

                                            I have seen on more than one occasion where members are deeply disappointed in their denim after a wash, and almost every time was due to care guidelines not being followed. @AdamJ can give you an example of his jeans that marbled after a wash. He stated that the reason behind the marbling was not following the recommended care.

                                            Others may chime in, but my point is: The recommended guidelines have been followed by many and some of the greatest examples of fades have been by the ones who have followed them. Just my $.02.

                                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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