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IH-526L - 19oz Left-Hand Twill Selvedge Denim Type III - Indigo

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    PJS
    Raw and Unwashed
    @pechelman
    Joined: 28 Oct 2020

    @pechelman Thanks, I wear sport watches, dive and chronographs. I’d probably have to unbutton and cuff.

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      Luijim78
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      @PJS
      Joined: 19 Aug 2022

      @PJS no I don't think they are particularly tight, I live in Italy and for years we haven't had a winter or so, so usually I just wear a t-shirt under my jacket, on rare occasions I have put on an 18oz CPO shirt and I have had no problems (leaving the cuffs naturally open).IMG_7293.jpeg

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        Oaktavia
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        @Luijim78
        Joined: 12 Jun 2019

        @Luijim78 it definitely will buddy. Just wear it a lot.

        IG: electricindigowizard

        "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

        WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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          Kasi
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          Joined: 9 Oct 2014

          Yep wear it a lot will be forgiving in the end

          The world's insane
          While you drink champagne
          And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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            pechelman
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            @pechelman
            Joined: 24 Jan 2022

            @pechelman said in IH-526L - 19oz Left-Hand Twill Selvedge Denim Type III - Indigo:

            I ... hung it with each sleeve bent by fastening the sleeve button/hole to the placket on each side. We'll see if that helps but figured it wouldn't hurt.

            My morning realization is that doing this sort of resulted in forming the cuff slightly closed on the LH sleeve and slightly open on the RH sleeve. There's also some twist where the LH side has the opening more pointed down and the RH side opening more pointed up (when arms are on a desk typing). I like how it sits closed/down on the LH side but it's slightly annoying on the RH side. May locally soak the end of the RH sleeve cuff opening and button to dry. Maybe the twist is just due to the LH twill? In the future, I'll likely still do this but be more cognizant to keep the sleeve openings aligned/closed during drying.

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              Setanta
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              Joined: 5 Dec 2022

              Hi @pechelman the sleeve situation may not be the result of your process, as my right sleeve opening also has an outward / upward twist...

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                pechelman
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                Thanks, @Setanta. I was wondering that but also wanted to caution folks just in case. On my example it looks like there might be a crease on the RH side as a result of it hanging to dry. But it's hard to know for sure what's what.

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                  Mizmazzle
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                  I've read on the forum twisted sleeves and pant legs can be fairly common. Sort of the result of the way the denim is woven and the way the pants or jacket is constructed can sometimes lead to a bit of twist in how the sleeves hang.

                  In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                    goosehd
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                    @Giles said in A Nerd’s Guide to Right Hand and Left Hand Twill Denim:

                    This is going out in the next newsletter, I therefore had to make it briefer than I would have liked.  I will add more, when I have a mo…..

                    A Nerd’s Guide to Right Hand and Left Hand Twill Denim
                    What is a plain weave?
                    On a loom, the warps run the length of the fabric and the weft (or “filling yarn” or just “filler”) run across the width of the fabric at 90° to the warps.  On a plain weave fabric, each weft thread crosses the warp threads by going over one and then under the next one, and so on.  The next weft thread goes under the warp thread that its neighbour went over and vice versa  A plain weave fabric, also known as a 1/1 weave, looks the same on both sides.  Examples of a plain weave are chambray and canvas (duck).


                    Plain Weave or 1/1 Weave

                    What is a twill?
                    Just like a plain weave, a twill fabric consists of warps and wefts.  However, in a twill weave, the weft passes under one or more warps and then over two or more warps.  The next weft will “step” or offset one warp, this creates the characteristic diagonal line (known as a “wale”) that identifies a twill fabric.  Twill weave is often designated as a fraction such as 2/1, where the weft passes over two warps and then under one (two up, one down).  Twills have a front and a back side and look different on the face and the back.  Because a twill fabric has fewer interlacings than a plain weave it allows the yarns to move more freely, which is one of the reasons that denim, which is a twill, shapes to the body well.  Finally, because a twill has an uneven surface, stains are less noticeable than on a plain weave fabric, which is good for workwear such as jeans.


                    A 2/1 Twill Weave

                    What is right hand twill?
                    Right hand twill or “Z” twist is the most common weave found in denim jeans.  In a right hand twill the diagonal twill line or wale goes from upper right to the lower left on the face of the fabric.  Because the direction of the weave loosens up fibres in the warp yarn you typically get a rougher, darker face to the twill and little weft of filling yarn showing through on the face of the twill.  Thus, all other things being equal, a right hand twill denim will appear darker.

                    What is left hand twill?
                    In a left hand twill or “S” twist, the wale goes from top left to bottom right on the face of the fabric.  In a left hand twill, the warp gets tightened during the weaving process, thus the result is typically a smoother face to the fabric.  Also as more of the weft (or filling yarn) is seen on the face of the fabric, the denim will often appear to be of a lighter hue than an equivalent right hand twill.


                    Right Hand Twill                                                                                              Left Hand Twill
                    (Photo, courtesy of The Tuck Shop, Singapore)

                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                      goosehd
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                      @LandoCal126-0 said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

                      Why do my jeans have a leg twist?

                      "Many vintage jeans suffer from leg-twist. This is simply a natural adjustment of the fabric, which tends to follow the direction of the weave. Stefano Aldighieri, Director of Fabric & Finishing at LS&Co. explains it thus: “Levi’s® denim were mostly right hand twills; the twill line rises to the right. During the weaving process you basically ‘force’ the fabric to be straight, perpendicular to the selvage, but at the same time you give it this direction in the construction. You lay and cut the fabric; in the early days LS&Co. patterns were cut straight along the selvage. When you wash the garments, the fabric will try to follow the direction of the weave and will pull in that direction… hence the twisted legs, the result of the movement of fabric. Because Lee started to use left hand weave denims, their legs would twist the other way.” Leg twist was eliminated in the 1970s by skewing (which contorts denim to its after-wash shape)- and later revived with Levi’s® Red and Engineered jeans." - Via oki-ni

                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                        Giles
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                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/topic/2029/leg-twist-and-skew-in-denim

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          Tobi
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                          Joined: 12 Aug 2022

                          I can confirm some arm-twisting going on at the RH side... 😉

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                            Setanta
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                            Joined: 5 Dec 2022

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                              Mizmazzle
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                              @Setanta
                              Joined: 29 Jun 2021

                              @Setanta brohem!!! That right there is exactly how a type 3 should fit!!

                              In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                                Setanta
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                                @Mizmazzle
                                Joined: 5 Dec 2022

                                @Mizmazzle said in IH-526L - 19oz Left-Hand Twill Selvedge Denim Type III - Indigo:

                                @Setanta brohem!!! That right there is exactly how a type 3 should fit!!

                                Thank you kindly! I wasn't sure at first... but thanks to Josh at IH for sorting me out correctly! Next time I will have to include my dog in the pic, which looks a lot like yours!

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                                  pechelman
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                                  for anyone who missed out, there may or may not be a freshly returned Large from me on the website right now :).

                                  Would rather someone here snag it if possible.

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                                    Mizmazzle
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                                    @Setanta
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                                    @Setanta oh yeah?? Is your dog a long haired German shepherd too??

                                    In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                                      Graham
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                                      Joined: 8 May 2014

                                      Shrink test on the latest batch of 526L's

                                      Screenshot 2023-07-27 at 12.37.48.png

                                      @gmac_ironheart
                                      🤘

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                                        pechelman
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                                        Thanks for doing that @Graham !

                                        Gives me some good confidence that most or all of the shrink in my jacket is probably gone after its soak.

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                                          Setanta
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                                          @Mizmazzle
                                          Joined: 5 Dec 2022

                                          @Mizmazzle yeh mon almost two years old
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                                          and just to keep this Lefty-related..ac3c20b5-4194-49c3-860f-a5dff3f37e69.jpg

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