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IH-633S - Self Edge x Iron Heart 21oz Selvedge Straight Tapered

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    leafscan18
    The Unwoven
    Joined: 7 Sept 2022

    Does anybody have any input on this cuff size (i.e. too large)? This is my first pair of unhemmed IH jeans in 36" inseam, so by far the largest cuff in jeans I own. I'll be doing my first wash in a few months and am thinking of getting these hemmed once all remaining shrinkage is out of them. Just debating if it's even worth it. The cuff has kind of grown on me, but when I started wearing them, I thought it looked stupid high/thick for me. probably overthinking it anyways haha

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      leafscan18
      The Unwoven
      Joined: 7 Sept 2022

      @TeflonDon:

      Does anyone know if there is a restock coming? These are sold out in 34, and I would really like to get my hands on a pair.

      @TeflonDon when I picked up my pair in the summer Self Edge seemed to have just restocked these. (Size 33) I'd assume they only get a full run of these once a year, but I could be wrong. I had to wait a few months to try on both the 34's (returning them) and finally landing on the 33's this past spring/summer

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        neph93
        見習いボス
        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

        @leafscan18:

        This is my first pair of unhemmed IH jeans in 36" inseam, so by far the largest cuff in jeans I own. I'll be doing my first wash in a few months and am thinking of getting these hemmed once all remaining shrinkage is out of them. Just debating if it's even worth it. The cuff has kind of grown on me, but when I started wearing them, I thought it looked stupid high/thick for me. probably overthinking it anyways haha

        First of there isn’t any shrinkage to be had with the 21oz, so no first wash needed.

        Secondly there is no right cuff size other than the one that makes you happy. Anyone else’s opinion has equal to, or less value than your own. For what it’s worth. They look great to me.

        Congratulations on a great pair of jeans.

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

        • Virginia Woolf
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          TJA_Crew
          Joined: 13 Nov 2019

          Just scored the 25oz. Already soaked em up and really like the cut… couldn’t be happier with them…fingers are a bit sore from buttoning them up, but that’s part of the game, right! Sorry if this is posted in the wrong place, couldn’t find the XHS thread.
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            Robert Z
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 22 Aug 2021

            633s 14bb 14oz

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              FireGX
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined: 14 Feb 2023

              Hello! New to the forum and hoping that it's okay to ask a question about denim stretching (I can't seem to find a way to search within threads..)

              I recently bought a pair of the 633S-21oz and they are just right in the waist (not too tight), but I'm concerned that the thigh doesn't have enough room. In particular, I'm barely able to grab excess fabric at the mid-thigh area (halfway between the bottom of my pelvis and my knees). This area doesn't feel constricting (ie. I can sit or squat down reasonably comfortably; I'm guessing this is because of the 21oz denim's loose weave?) but I'm worried that if I gain any extra weight, it'll become too tight. Does this area stretch at all?

              On a side note, does anyone know how the 14oz denim stretches in the thigh compared to the 21oz?

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                sabergirl
                見習いボス
                Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                21 oz stretches a lot, and more than any other IH denim, imo. It you already have reasonable mobility in the thigh and top block, you should be golden. That said, gaining weight will always mean tighter jeans. Ain’t no way around that.

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                  chucklando
                  Haraki san Student
                  Joined: 19 Feb 2022

                  I can tell you the main reason I’ve let go of various pairs of IH jeans is the thighs being too tight as you’re described… barely or no slack that you can pinch when sitting. Sometimes they look really good standing but you sit and then they are skin tight in the thighs. This doesn’t get any better (stretch out) with wear in my experience.

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                    yannis
                    Haraki san Expert
                    Joined: 26 Aug 2020

                    You will get stretch out of the 21oz. If you cannot pinch any material standing they are too tight and will not strech enough to be comfortable. Your call..if i was you i would size one up. Post some pictures we can get a better idea about the fit.

                    last edited by 30 Jun 2023, 13:43 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      Paul9221
                      啓蒙家
                      Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                      Let me chime in so that I can comfort and confuse you all at once! 😁

                      It sounds like we might be in a similar boat. My waist is comfortable but my thigh is always tight. Not painted-on tight, but tight. Now, if you size up, the waist will be too big and you get a little more of the diaper effect in the crotch and butt areas. This is especially problematic if you like to tuck in your shirt like I do.

                      The thigh does stretch. I'm having trouble finding notes for stretch on my personal 21oz indigo, but I have notes that show the thigh stretching from 12.25" to 12.75" on the IH-888S-OD.

                      Obviously, it's up to you. I think that you might be unhappy with the top block if you size up. If you can try a size up without too much hassle, that might be your best bet. Just know that the 21oz denim is pretty stretchy where it needs to move.

                      You could also try the 888 cut, which is what I use now, to get a tiny bit more room in the thigh, or the 1955 cut, if you don't need the taper.

                      Edit -- Additional thoughts

                      I should add that, in my personal experience, if the denim isn't at least a little snug on the first wear, you probably should've sized down. That's the great thing about denim, you know? It stretches to you. Each pair becomes personalized. But, it can't stretch to you if it's already bigger than you.

                      That having been said, I see the styles online going to bigger and boxier fits. That's not my style but I see the appeal. If you also prefer a trimmer fit, you may want to stick with what you've got.

                      Blanket-line all the things!!!

                      last edited by Paul9221 30 Jun 2023, 15:11 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
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                        FireGX
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 14 Feb 2023

                        That's basically it - I have a relatively narrow waist but large thighs. That, and I don't think high-rise denim works for me as I have a shorter torso so it makes me look disproportionate. My challenge is that I need to size for my thighs, and if the waist becomes too large then my jeans sit on my hips instead, which might end up producing diaper butt so I prefer lower-rise where possible. I was hoping the 633's mid-rise is a good middle ground.

                        Here are some images I took. Waist is comfortable and if anything, just ever so lightly loose now that I've been trying it on a bit (hoping it won't be an issue if I always wear with a belt). The red arrows point to the part of my thigh where it's difficult to pinch any material when standing. It ispossible, but I'm only able to grab a small amount of fabric. I'm able to sit down on a chair without feeling any discomfort.

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                          goosehd
                          Mod Squad
                          @FireGX
                          Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                          @FireGX My $.02 is that it's too big in the waist...

                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                          • GilesG
                            Giles
                            IHUK Crew
                            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                            I agree

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • jerkulesJ
                              jerkules
                              啓蒙家
                              Joined: 26 Aug 2018

                              Big thigh to waist ratio dude here 👋. Tried lots of cuts. 555 a total no, 777 better but still a bit tight in the thigh, 888 better, 634 perfection. I know that the lack of taper can put people off the 634, it did for me for a looong time, but you might be surprised if you give it a try.

                              That said, I don’t think your pair look bad at all, but the waist might stretch a bit more and be sloppy. Hope you find something you’re happy with!

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                                Paul9221
                                啓蒙家
                                @FireGX
                                Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                                @FireGX maybe it's the lighting, but that doesn't look too tight in the thigh to me, and the waist may be too wide.

                                Unless you're about to start a bulk, I think you may be able to size down.

                                Remember, this fabric stretches a good deal, it should be tight at first.

                                Blanket-line all the things!!!

                                last edited by Paul9221 30 Jun 2023, 16:47 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                                  FireGX
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 14 Feb 2023

                                  Thanks everyone for the input! Now I'm worried about the waist and the thighs, haha!

                                  The waist is indeed quite comfortable right now and I understand the 21oz denim might continue to stretch. Would this be prevented as I normally always wear a belt with the denim? I'm just a bit confused with sizing as I've previously taken advice to size down the waist, only to have the denim not stretch as much as I would've liked, and I'm seeing advice online that it's generally better to make sure the denim is comfortable right from the get-go. I'm sure with all sorts of fabrics, weights, loose/dense weaves, it's all a bit "your mileage may vary"...

                                  Some local shops carry the 634S, which I believe the 633S is more or less the same from waist to knee, so I'll see how a size down might go. I'm just concerned that sizing down might result in the thigh to knee area being too tight.

                                  I'll also check out the 888S but I'm not convinced the high rise will work for me..

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                                  • KasiK
                                    Kasi
                                    見習いボス
                                    Joined: 9 Oct 2014

                                    I says 555 would be your answer or maybe 888

                                    The world's insane
                                    While you drink champagne
                                    And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                                      sabergirl
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                                      Try out the size down. 21 oz denim will stretch at least an inch in the waist, belt or not.

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                                        sabergirl
                                        見習いボス
                                        Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                                        FWIW I also think those look fine, and if they’re comfortable maybe you should just rock em

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                                        • MattM
                                          Matt
                                          見習いボス
                                          Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                                          Looks like waist is too big and thighs are too tight. I don’t think it’s your cut.

                                          last edited by 2 Jul 2023, 03:48 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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