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    Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural

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    • goosehdG
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      @jordanscollected Your info is correct (from my understanding) and I'm glad to see you post it. Thank you!!!

      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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      • Daniel SanD
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        I think they measure 3 shirt as suggested by jordanscollected 👍

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        • AlexA
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          @jordanscollected pretty much nailed it, but it’s 2 not 3.

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          • AlexA
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            I think it’s probably worth noting that we also update the charts every production run, if needed, so comparing a shirt from production run 1 to the chart for production run 100 could definitely give you some results that seemed off

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            • xXclown86XxX
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              I understand, not sure why you are making a big deal out of this. It started with me asking someone else a simple question. You are just looking for an argument it seems.

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              • MizmazzleM
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                @xXclown86Xx take a breath. This is not a hostile environment. Just a bunch a like minded thinkers trying to help each other out. Sometimes we can misread a persons intentions, similar to a text conversation. Tone and attitude are hard to read at times. All love around here brother.

                In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                • xXclown86XxX
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                  @Mizmazzle where in my messages did I say anything out of line? Goose needs to take a breath.

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                  • goosehdG
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                    @xXclown86Xx I am going to apologize for misinterpreting your words. @Mizmazzle is correct in that I was just trying to help you out.

                    I am now leaving this conversation as there is nothing left to add.

                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                    • xXclown86XxX
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                      @goosehd all good🤝🏻

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                        @goosehd said in Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural:

                        Yes, overdyeing will affect sizing, but because of the number of shirts being measured you shouldn't be seeing an inch in difference.

                        When I was in Gosport last year I measured the length of every single Anniversary Flannel in size M. There were at least 2 out of about 20 that were shorter by about an inch.

                        About 10 years ago I also went through the entire bin of the indigo overdyed grey hoodies. They had the biggest variation I've ever seen. Well more than an inch.

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                        • TobiT
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                          I think we should return to praising this amazing piece of dead horse! Cant wait until the color changes a bit. I ordered one of the recommended conditioners, but will first wait and see what happens.

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                          • xXclown86XxX
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                            @Tobi totally with ya🤙🏻

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                              What’s up pale riders?
                              Maybe just in the nick of time comes this crazy ass post from me. Well, I’m fresh out of a lukewarm tub wearing this shirt. As I suspected, it absorbed all the water uniformly and has a nice rich caramel color. I know the shade will change as it dries… but no water spots as of now.
                              The shoulders and chest INSTANTLY opened up and all of the stress on the buttons are gone. Good for now, but as it dries, I am going to pay attention to moving my arms and chest to preclude it from drying “tight”. I am bunching the sleeves at my elbow to get the cuffs off of my hands. Hope it stays that way…. When It’s about 95% dry, I’m going to slather it with Pecard’s in an effort to retain the flexibility and comfort I’m feeling right now (wet).
                              The shirt, when wet is heavy!
                              Oddly, I’m warm. Imagine that. Horse skin actually retains heat. Probably why our cavemen ancestors survived the elements without Patagonia and Arcteryx.
                              Disclaimer: I tried this shirt on in it brand-new state, and I was completely unhappy with the chest tightness and rigidity of the body and the collar. If I were to size up, the dimensions for me wouldn’t have been right. I am a true IH large all day long, and in this shirt especially. Being honest here… I just don’t have the patience to wear an uncomfortable garment for however many dozens of times before it starts to break in. MEGA PROPS TO THOSE OF YOU WHO DO!! If there is a sensible (crazy) shortcut to make something comfy, I’m all about it.
                              Anyway. Here’s a ridiculous picture of me in a towel and a soaking wet horse hide shirt. The wife and kid are on Spring Break and I’m home alone, so what better time for a weird experiment like this. I’ll post an update tomorrow (or next year) when it’s finally dry.
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                              • goosehdG
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                                You are a crazy, crazy man for trying it and I admire the hell out of it!!! Looks ace, and how much to drop the towel... 🙂

                                I'm sure you did worse crossing the equator... 🙂

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                  @goosehd
                                  DIRTY NASTY WOGS!!!!!
                                  I think we signed no-disclosure agreements. For everyone’s protections. And yes… received and doled-out much worse.
                                  Thanks Brother.

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                                    @Autorotate dedication right here. Did you take before measurements? Curious to see if you get any opening up in actual numbers or if it just "feels" better. I'd take either tbh as I'm on the edge of it being too tight, but it's more of a comfort issue for me.

                                    I'm in same boat as you. Going to try assuming there's no shrinkage. I literally cannot afford .1 inch anywhere or shirt will be destined to wear open only and I'll end up like one of those "after I lose 5-10 lbs, I'll be good" LOL.

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                                    • MizmazzleM
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                                      @Autorotate my man!! This is one hell of a fun experiment to watch. I’ve been eyeing this shirt hard. I’m going to have to live vicariously through the rest of y’all until next release. Also, nice to see I’m not the only one to be taking photos of my little “projects” once the loved ones have left the building haha

                                      In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                                        @weegeebee1 measurements were per the former IH chart (this is a first run model). I will measure it again when completely dry.
                                        i think something in the finish was released when it became wet. The water was dull brown when I got out. It almost feels like it’s a size bigger! Definitely not smaller. But that makes sense. There is absolutely no rigidity, and it has that oh-so sought after drape now. The pic below, I hope shows how flexible and soft it is just sitting here on the couch. But I know it’s not going to stay that way as it dries. The real results will be tomorrow after I sleep in it and it is coated with Pecard’s. I almost guarantee if it were to dry without being worn, I’d lose the benefits of the form fit and accelerating the break-in. TBD.
                                        My best guess as to the results:
                                        -the shoulders and chest will be form fitted and stretched to my dimensions. No more button pops.
                                        -The sleeves will retain their creases and the cuffs will ride higher.
                                        -Stitching will pucker. (Cool…)
                                        Corners (pocket flaps, collar points) will have a worn-in shape.
                                        The color will lighten, but not be pinkish, like when new.

                                        Oh yeah, if you like leather smell… wow big time. Smells great!

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                                          @Mizmazzle totally man. My wife already thinks I’m nuts. She has no idea the lengths I go thru. She is 100% not allowed to do my laundry. Hahahahaha. I’m like a mad scientist in the laundry room!
                                          Every once in a while I’ll get a “those jeans are hot”. Makes my year.

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                                          • goosehdG
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                                            After being together for 30 years and married for 25 years, those "jeans are hot" moments are worth every effort 🙂

                                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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