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    • xtcclassicX
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      Sweet I just ordered a wabash one (of course  😉 )

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      • JDelageJ
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        I've ordered a few too.

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        • JDelageJ
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          Int'l shipping is such a mess right now. Here are the packages I've been waiting for:

          Coming from: Sent date: Latest update
          USA 17-Mar-20 Spent 1 month in JP (?) before being sent out on Apr-23.Out for delivery in France
          USA 23-Mar-20 Departed Chicago March 29
          USA 25-Mar-20 Departed NYC Apr-27
          Australia 1-Apr-20 Departed Sydney on Apr-2. I worry is stuck in JP.
          Japan 9-Apr-20 Departed Osaka Int'l on Apr-24
          Lithuania 15-Apr-20 Departed Vilnius Int'l on Apr-18

          Pretty stressful as it is; would be much worse without tracking….

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          • GilesG
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            We are seeing virtually no delays with UPS.  Occasionally we get a one-day delay on imports from Japan, as UPS continues to route through China from Japan.  Their reason: "delay caused by circumstances beyond the control of UPS" makes my blood boil, shipping it through China is completely within your control you fucking dorks….But as they have removed all service guarantee's during the crisis, they incur no fiscal penalty by being late.

            We do ship to one retailer in The US via EMS. Cartons we shipped to him weeks ago, are still stuck in Osaka "because there are no planes flying to The USA" - which of course is bollocks.

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • JDelageJ
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              Yep, I've had the same experience: parcels shipped with integrated private carriers are doing OK (FedEx) or great (UPS & DHL). The national postal services seem to be a mess, at least for international shipments. Japan seems to be particularly disorganized, which I did not expect.

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              • GilesG
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                @JDelage:

                Japan seems to be particularly disorganized, which I did not expect.

                I did. It is a national characteristic (I did not make this up myself, but have had numerous discussions with my Japanese friends and colleagues).  Obedience is instilled in them from a very young age and to follow process and not use initiative.  When something mutates an established process, it takes a long time to adapt.

                I once had a discussion with Sarina about why a particular Japanese colleague followed a process that was clearly wrong and we had to correct his work once a week.  It took her 24 hours to think about it before she gave me an answer.  "Japanese workers do what they are told to do by their boss, even if they know something is wrong they will continue to do it".  She signed off with the immortal phrase, "and that is why mysterious things happen"

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • JDelageJ
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                  Ah, interesting.

                  On a separate note, the item shipped on March 17th from the US just got delivered - a month and 12 days in transit…

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                  • setandsettingS
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                    I had some beer ship from Mikkeller via UPS. The package left Queens on Thursday, went to Brooklyn, out for delivery, then back to Queens, and then finally delivered to me in Brooklyn yesterday.  😃 Took 6 days and the cans are pretty banged around. But otherwise UPS has been delivering pretty fine to me.

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                    • DougNgD
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                      Hope everyone is still doing well. My sister was reassigned and is leading a team in a Covid19 ICU in NYC (she didn’t tell me which one) and she’s pretty miserable. Apparently it’s basically been triage in there.

                      I’ve been busy as all fuck but hanging in there. I’m definitely not 28 anymore.

                      Had a funny conversation this morning with a homicide detective this morning. Apparently gang related attempted murders are up but homicides are down. I guess social distancing works if you’re a shitty shot.

                      Dark humor is all I got these days 🙂

                      I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                      • S
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                        Aren’t most people shitty shots? 🙂
                        Hope all is well. Stay safe.

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                        • neph93N
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                          Good to see you in here @DougNg    Best wishes for the continuation.

                          “Some of those that work forces
                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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                          • GraemeG
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                            The Yukon has got in on the social distancing by animals trend.

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                            • Stuart.TS
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                              Received a copy of Central government's 5 stage phased lifting of restrictions today ahead of the announcement on Sunday.

                              Basically, if all goes well stage 5 will be implemented on 20th August, it looks almost like life pre covid.

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                              • neph93N
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                                The goal here is to achieve the same by June 15th. Schools are open again from this Monday. We’ve been in lockdown since 12.3.2020 and managed containment quite early though. This was largely due to early action, high levels of compliance and a small, relatively thinly spread population.

                                “Some of those that work forces
                                Are the same that burn crosses”

                                • Virginia Woolf
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                                • J
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                                  Unfortunately due to a very cavalier level of compliance in my small town,as of last Friday,we’ve had 399 cases and 68 deaths. Hate that my survival depends on someone else’s common sense.

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    I’m sorry to hear that buddy. There is now a debate here about how necessary the magnitude of the measures adopted were. I find it rather silly. They have done what they were intended to do, so if they were heavy handed, then so be it. Better that than too little too late. There is also a concern about a backlash. That people will now think it is all over and relax too much, leading to a new epidemic wave and further lockdowns. Interesting times, and all that…

                                    “Some of those that work forces
                                    Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                    • Stuart.TS
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                                      Local health services in our are (and undoubtedly others) are very fearful of a much more intense 2nd wave. From what I've observed, I suspect a large part of society have had covid with few or no symptoms, and for a smaller percentage, there will continue to be high levels of deaths, relative to the high risk cohort.

                                      Hindsight is never helpful. Decisions aren't made on hindsight, but politicians and the media will be as opportunist as ever.

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                                      • BoyoB
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                                        id be curious to hear what specific safety measures will be in place at your school Neph.. there is endless debate here on how to re-open the schools.. in NY they cancelled the current school year ( only remote/internet based lessons currently) and are even unsure about returning in September.

                                        Lively Up Yourself

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                                        • WlemonW
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                                          @neph93:

                                          The goal here is to achieve the same by June 15th. Schools are open again from this Monday. We’ve been in lockdown since 12.3.2020 and managed containment quite early though.

                                          Wow, Monday, @neph93? We aren't going back until January here. (I teach at a college so online isn't that much of an issue.) I haven't heard about my daughter's school. To be honest, I assume it will be open in September, though. So many folks use school as child care it is hard to restart things without it.

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            @Boyo:

                                            id be curious to hear what specific safety measures will be in place at your school Neph.. there is endless debate here on how to re-open the schools.. in NY they cancelled the current school year ( only remote/internet based lessons currently) and are even unsure about returning in September.

                                            Last week we received online coursing from the govt in how it is going to be. There are a lot of measures. Here are some of them:

                                            • No more than 20 in a room at the same time.
                                            • One metre apart at all times
                                            • All classes taught in class groups, not mixed groups. Elective classes still taught online.
                                            • Minimal room changes
                                            • Compressed timetable to minimise contact and allow room sanitization between lessons
                                            • Public areas (cantina, library etc) limited or closed
                                            • There is a complicated protocol for attendance and what to do if you feel unwell

                                            And a whole load of other stuff.

                                            It should be noted that the situation here is not grim, even less so where I live. Nationally, the first wave is on its last legs, the R number has been less than one for a month and is currently estimated at 0.4. The hospitals have at no point been overwhelmed and it has been made clear what an unacceptable rise in infection will look like and what will happen if and when it occurs. There are also only 5 weeks of the year left before summer break.

                                            With all due respect, Norway is a country of 5m people with a trusted govt and a compliant population. The govt have been given broad and far reaching emergency powers for a rolling period, and have used them. We have a well funded welfare state and a large emergency fund based on oil wealth which we are utilising to the max (one billion NOK a day, apparently). It all looks very different here than other countries and we are very fortunate at the moment. I hope that continues.

                                            “Some of those that work forces
                                            Are the same that burn crosses”

                                            • Virginia Woolf
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