Coronavirus (Covid-19) Discussion
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Fingers crossed for our Italian friends….
'Lowest rise' in confirmed cases in Italy since outbreak began'
Seems like the curve is starring to flatten out which is good! - http://bing.com/covid
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Point 1. I'd really recommend people check the stats around new cases and deaths on sites like WHO and NHS. UK the media is SERIOUSLY misrepresenting the data.
Point 2.Reeves and Mortimer predicted this is the 90s
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People are scared to buy fresh bread… It's weird... Other than that: in my store everything was re-stocked except for flour... They said summat about some insufferable twat in Gosport, UK who bought it all... No idea what it was all about...
And yeah: things go MENTAL once a lockdown is announced... I'd suggest NOT going to the stores the day it's announced... Go the 2nd or 3rd day of the lockdown... You'll thank me later... And be creative when summat's not in stock ffs...
Agreed. I've seen so much kindness in my local town today. There has been no panic buying. There has been low stock, but not a symptom of panic buying.
Today I witnessed 3 business owners giving away the last of their bread, milk, eggs, and any other perishable goods for FREE because they were shutting their doors for the foreseeable future and didn't want to waste valuable food.
As a species we aren't wired to live in massively dense populations. We go fucking mental and don't think about others. Though you do get pockets of good communities in larger towns and cities, smaller towns and villages come into their own at times like this.
It isn't hard to be kind, and when we want, we can have long memories. People will pay those good businesses back once this passes, and hopefully let the money grabbing bastards go to the wall.
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I can state with good authority the the measures announced today by the UK Government are likely to be in place for 12 to 18 months. The current 21 day deprivation of citizen's liberty (art 5.2 ECtHR) have been passed by Parliament with the intention to lessen and retighten intermittently throughout that period unless there is sufficient evidence that a) covid 19 has permenantly regressed, or b) tests show that people are testing with antibodies that protect against this particular strain.
The lessening and restriction approach is a public health model designed to give people potential limited exposure to the virus to give those with healthy immune systems a chance to develop antibodies.
I couldn't sit on this anymore.
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Wow. I have to say all of our governments should probably be taking theses steps. Anybody who says they aren’t scared of this thing is either dumb or nuts. Or both.
I read an article that described how doctors in Spain are taking people over 65 off of ventilators so they could be used to help younger people survive. I can't even begin to process that.
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Italy, I suspect, has been doing that for a while :(.
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Wow. I have to say all of our governments should probably be taking theses steps. Anybody who says they aren’t scared of this thing is either dumb or nuts. Or both.
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Sorry to say most people European governments are. Boris has been woefully slow in doing this The new UK measures have been in effect in Norway since 12/3, and a host of other countries too, despite the virus showing up around the same time in the UK.
The yo-yo lockdown Stuart describes is the predicted model a lot of other places, with 12-18 months being the predicted time before a vaccine arrives. The damage to society and the economy is goiing to be immense, but the alternative isn’t just a lot of people dying from Covid-19, it is the complete collapse of the health system with everything that entails. It’s a shitshow.
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Wow. I have to say all of our governments should probably be taking theses steps. Anybody who says they aren’t scared of this thing is either dumb or nuts. Or both.
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Sorry to say most people European governments are. Boris has been woefully slow in doing this The new UK measures have been in effect in Norway since 12/3, and a host of other countries too, despite the virus showing up around the same time in the UK.
The yo-yo lockdown Stuart describes is the predicted model a lot of other places, with 12-18 months being the predicted time before a vaccine arrives. The damage to society and the economy is goiing to be immense, but the alternative isn’t just a lot of people dying from Covid-19, it is the complete collapse of the health system with everything that entails. It’s a shitshow.
It’s unbelievable what’s still going on in UK
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No worse than the challenges in the USA [emoji631]
How does one way the cost of human lives with destroying the economy?
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Let's try not to politicise these discussions or knock individual leaders. We will all have some views as to how they are handling the situation, but I would not wish the enormity of what they are having to do, on my own worst enemy.
I said to a friend yesterday, this is as big as WW2, he replied, "It's bigger, at least in a war there is always the possibility of a negotiated settlement, we do not have that with Covid-19".
When we are through this, then is the time to analyze how effective our leaders were and make the appropriate actions, oh and for pity's sake, learn from the lessons…
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that is very true. the word lockdown is being overused at the slightest negative news you hear. but it doesn't mean it applies to every part of the world. taiwan and singapore are one of the few countries i know that are not in lockdown and are doing very well. does it mean that they're risking lives? definitely not.
what we should focus on is doing our own part regardless of whatever measures each government decides to put in place.
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If there's one take away from this so far it's that neither the European systems nor the slightly more private / distributed US system have performed well. (Emphasis on "slightly" because having lived under both systems I can tell you that they're much closer than most people on either side seem to think.)
