Coronavirus (Covid-19) Discussion
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I can state with good authority the the measures announced today by the UK Government are likely to be in place for 12 to 18 months. The current 21 day deprivation of citizen's liberty (art 5.2 ECtHR) have been passed by Parliament with the intention to lessen and retighten intermittently throughout that period unless there is sufficient evidence that a) covid 19 has permenantly regressed, or b) tests show that people are testing with antibodies that protect against this particular strain.
The lessening and restriction approach is a public health model designed to give people potential limited exposure to the virus to give those with healthy immune systems a chance to develop antibodies.
I couldn't sit on this anymore.
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Wow. I have to say all of our governments should probably be taking theses steps. Anybody who says they aren’t scared of this thing is either dumb or nuts. Or both.
I read an article that described how doctors in Spain are taking people over 65 off of ventilators so they could be used to help younger people survive. I can't even begin to process that.
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Italy, I suspect, has been doing that for a while :(.
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Wow. I have to say all of our governments should probably be taking theses steps. Anybody who says they aren’t scared of this thing is either dumb or nuts. Or both.
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Sorry to say most people European governments are. Boris has been woefully slow in doing this The new UK measures have been in effect in Norway since 12/3, and a host of other countries too, despite the virus showing up around the same time in the UK.
The yo-yo lockdown Stuart describes is the predicted model a lot of other places, with 12-18 months being the predicted time before a vaccine arrives. The damage to society and the economy is goiing to be immense, but the alternative isn’t just a lot of people dying from Covid-19, it is the complete collapse of the health system with everything that entails. It’s a shitshow.
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Wow. I have to say all of our governments should probably be taking theses steps. Anybody who says they aren’t scared of this thing is either dumb or nuts. Or both.
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Sorry to say most people European governments are. Boris has been woefully slow in doing this The new UK measures have been in effect in Norway since 12/3, and a host of other countries too, despite the virus showing up around the same time in the UK.
The yo-yo lockdown Stuart describes is the predicted model a lot of other places, with 12-18 months being the predicted time before a vaccine arrives. The damage to society and the economy is goiing to be immense, but the alternative isn’t just a lot of people dying from Covid-19, it is the complete collapse of the health system with everything that entails. It’s a shitshow.
It’s unbelievable what’s still going on in UK
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No worse than the challenges in the USA [emoji631]
How does one way the cost of human lives with destroying the economy?
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Let's try not to politicise these discussions or knock individual leaders. We will all have some views as to how they are handling the situation, but I would not wish the enormity of what they are having to do, on my own worst enemy.
I said to a friend yesterday, this is as big as WW2, he replied, "It's bigger, at least in a war there is always the possibility of a negotiated settlement, we do not have that with Covid-19".
When we are through this, then is the time to analyze how effective our leaders were and make the appropriate actions, oh and for pity's sake, learn from the lessons…
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that is very true. the word lockdown is being overused at the slightest negative news you hear. but it doesn't mean it applies to every part of the world. taiwan and singapore are one of the few countries i know that are not in lockdown and are doing very well. does it mean that they're risking lives? definitely not.
what we should focus on is doing our own part regardless of whatever measures each government decides to put in place.
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If there's one take away from this so far it's that neither the European systems nor the slightly more private / distributed US system have performed well. (Emphasis on "slightly" because having lived under both systems I can tell you that they're much closer than most people on either side seem to think.)
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IDK. I am struggling with this lockdown but I can’t imagine going out into the world right now. I’d risk coming home as a carrier and infecting my 3 month old son, wife and daughter. It angers me that this is gaining traction. Lifting the lockdown I mean. If I’m forced to go back to work my wife would not allow me back in the house and I don’t blame her.
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Two meters distance determines our existence!
