Coronavirus (Covid-19) Discussion
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Paula's sister went into Curry's (Probably the largest retailer of white goods in The UK) to buy a charger for her phone. I don't know how the conversation got around to this, but they have completely sold out of freezers…...FFS
I said weeks ago, this is going to get to the point where you’re going to have to participate or get left behind. It’s a binary function, there won’t be an in between.
We’ve been trying to just buy groceries as normal before having to dig into our reserves, yesterday I couldn’t get what we needed for the first time. Went to four stores.
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I’m going to qualify this by saying I used to be an FDA investigator and have seen lots of different types of food manufacturing: most food manufacturers operate at full capacity most of the time. Because foods are a perishable product, they try to equilibrate supply to demand.
There won’t be a sudden surge of the food supply because of the increased demand.
If half the population buys twice as much food, the other half is going to have to scrounge for the percentage that usually goes to waste
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I think buying 20,000 rolls of TP is gross and dumb, and hoarding face masks is morally … questionable.
With this said, having a well stocked freezer is something everyone should do. Ideally we should have done that before the crisis. Short of that, doing it now is smarter than not doing it at all, IMHO.
There's apparently a Chinese (?) proverb that says: "The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The next best time is now." Not sure if authentic, but still quite wise I think.
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We have 3 freezers in the house. Have done for years.
One is in the kitchen and contains stuff I need regularly for cooking, and ice which Paula needs regularly for G&T's. It is always full to overflowing.
One is in the basement and contains stock, meals that I have doubled up on when originally cooked - stews, chili, curries & fish pies, frozen veg and fish. It is always full.
One is in the shed and is our meat supply. I have always bought in bulk infrequently, and I guess we were halfway through a cycle, so it is about half full.
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Interview with Larry Brilliant, an epidemiologist.
https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-interview-larry-brilliant-smallpox-epidemiologist/
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Interview with Larry Brilliant, an epidemiologist.
https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-interview-larry-brilliant-smallpox-epidemiologist/
Good article. And I like that he’s answered (for me) how testing is important.
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People are scared to buy fresh bread… It's weird... Other than that: in my store everything was re-stocked except for flour... They said summat about some insufferable twat in Gosport, UK who bought it all... No idea what it was all about...
And yeah: things go MENTAL once a lockdown is announced... I'd suggest NOT going to the stores the day it's announced... Go the 2nd or 3rd day of the lockdown... You'll thank me later... And be creative when summat's not in stock ffs...
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Fingers crossed for our Italian friends….
'Lowest rise' in confirmed cases in Italy since outbreak began'
Seems like the curve is starring to flatten out which is good! - http://bing.com/covid
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Point 1. I'd really recommend people check the stats around new cases and deaths on sites like WHO and NHS. UK the media is SERIOUSLY misrepresenting the data.
Point 2.Reeves and Mortimer predicted this is the 90s
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People are scared to buy fresh bread… It's weird... Other than that: in my store everything was re-stocked except for flour... They said summat about some insufferable twat in Gosport, UK who bought it all... No idea what it was all about...
And yeah: things go MENTAL once a lockdown is announced... I'd suggest NOT going to the stores the day it's announced... Go the 2nd or 3rd day of the lockdown... You'll thank me later... And be creative when summat's not in stock ffs...
Agreed. I've seen so much kindness in my local town today. There has been no panic buying. There has been low stock, but not a symptom of panic buying.
Today I witnessed 3 business owners giving away the last of their bread, milk, eggs, and any other perishable goods for FREE because they were shutting their doors for the foreseeable future and didn't want to waste valuable food.
As a species we aren't wired to live in massively dense populations. We go fucking mental and don't think about others. Though you do get pockets of good communities in larger towns and cities, smaller towns and villages come into their own at times like this.
It isn't hard to be kind, and when we want, we can have long memories. People will pay those good businesses back once this passes, and hopefully let the money grabbing bastards go to the wall.
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I can state with good authority the the measures announced today by the UK Government are likely to be in place for 12 to 18 months. The current 21 day deprivation of citizen's liberty (art 5.2 ECtHR) have been passed by Parliament with the intention to lessen and retighten intermittently throughout that period unless there is sufficient evidence that a) covid 19 has permenantly regressed, or b) tests show that people are testing with antibodies that protect against this particular strain.
The lessening and restriction approach is a public health model designed to give people potential limited exposure to the virus to give those with healthy immune systems a chance to develop antibodies.
I couldn't sit on this anymore.
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Wow. I have to say all of our governments should probably be taking theses steps. Anybody who says they aren’t scared of this thing is either dumb or nuts. Or both.
I read an article that described how doctors in Spain are taking people over 65 off of ventilators so they could be used to help younger people survive. I can't even begin to process that.
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Italy, I suspect, has been doing that for a while :(.
