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    • DougNgD
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      Thank you Stuart.

      In a past life I was a person "in the know" as well, and I know how much you just stuck your neck out.

      I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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        Wow. I have to say all of our governments should probably be taking theses steps. Anybody who says they aren’t scared of this thing is either dumb or nuts. Or both.

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        • GraemeG
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          I'm not doing Coronavirus sober.

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          • ChrisC
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            @sabergirl:

            Wow. I have to say all of our governments should probably be taking theses steps. Anybody who says they aren’t scared of this thing is either dumb or nuts. Or both.

            I read an article that described how doctors in Spain are taking people over 65 off of ventilators so they could be used to help younger people survive.  I can't even begin to process that.

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              Omega Man
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              Italy, I suspect, has been doing that for a while  :(.

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              • JDelageJ
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                To be perfectly honest, doctors take those kind of decisions even in peace time. What's changed is the threshold and the frequency.

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                • neph93N
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                  @sabergirl:

                  Wow. I have to say all of our governments should probably be taking theses steps. Anybody who says they aren’t scared of this thing is either dumb or nuts. Or both.

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                  Sorry to say most people European governments are. Boris has been woefully slow in doing this The new UK measures have been in effect in Norway since 12/3, and a host of other countries too, despite the virus showing up around the same time in the UK.

                  The yo-yo lockdown Stuart describes is the predicted model a lot of other places, with 12-18 months being the predicted time before a vaccine arrives. The damage to society and the economy is goiing to be immense, but the alternative isn’t just a lot of people dying from Covid-19, it is the complete collapse of the health system with everything that entails. It’s a shitshow.

                  «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                  We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                  • ChapC
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                    @neph93:

                    @sabergirl:

                    Wow. I have to say all of our governments should probably be taking theses steps. Anybody who says they aren’t scared of this thing is either dumb or nuts. Or both.

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                    Sorry to say most people European governments are. Boris has been woefully slow in doing this The new UK measures have been in effect in Norway since 12/3, and a host of other countries too, despite the virus showing up around the same time in the UK.

                    The yo-yo lockdown Stuart describes is the predicted model a lot of other places, with 12-18 months being the predicted time before a vaccine arrives. The damage to society and the economy is goiing to be immense, but the alternative isn’t just a lot of people dying from Covid-19, it is the complete collapse of the health system with everything that entails. It’s a shitshow.

                    It’s unbelievable what’s still going on in UK

                    God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                    • Alex_24A
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                      No worse than the challenges in the USA [emoji631]

                      How does one way the cost of human lives with destroying the economy?

                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-he-may-soon-lift-restrictions-to-reopen-businesses-defying-the-advice-of-coronavirus-experts/2020/03/23/f2c7f424-6d14-11ea-a3ec-70d7479d83f0_story.html

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                      • GilesG
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                        Let's try not to politicise these discussions or knock individual leaders.  We will all have some views as to how they are handling the situation, but I would not wish the enormity of what they are having to do, on my own worst enemy.

                        I said to a friend yesterday, this is as big as WW2, he replied, "It's bigger, at least in a war there is always the possibility of a negotiated settlement, we do not have that with Covid-19".

                        When we are through this, then is the time to analyze how effective our leaders were and make the appropriate actions, oh and for pity's sake, learn from the lessons…

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • louisboscoL
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                          ^

                          that is very true. the word lockdown is being overused at the slightest negative news you hear. but it doesn't mean it applies to every part of the world. taiwan and singapore are one of the few countries i know that are not in lockdown and are doing very well. does it mean that they're risking lives? definitely not.

                          what we should focus on is doing our own part regardless of whatever measures each government decides to put in place.

                          "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                          • JDelageJ
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                            If there's one take away from this so far it's that neither the European systems nor the slightly more private / distributed US system have performed well. (Emphasis on "slightly" because having lived under both systems I can tell you that they're much closer than most people on either side seem to think.)

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                            • neph93N
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                              I think timing is key. Most countries have waited too long with functional measures, whether they were controlling movement, testing, social distancing, whatever. Lockdowns have become increasingly necessary because of this.

                              «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                              • DougNgD
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                                My take away from all of this is if you want things to go well, you have to take personal responsibility for your health/supplies/safety. Governments are too big and too incompetent to rely on

                                I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                • SeulS
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                                  ^Ron Swanson's right!..

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                                  • Matty123M
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                                    IDK. I am struggling with this lockdown but I can’t imagine going out into the world right now. I’d risk coming home as a carrier and infecting my 3 month old son, wife and daughter. It angers me that this is gaining traction. Lifting the lockdown I mean. If I’m forced to go back to work my wife would not allow me back in the house and I don’t blame her.

                                    Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      @Matty123:

                                      my wife would not allow me back in the house and I don’t blame her.

                                      Nor me.  Oh wait, you were talking specifically about Covid-19…... 😉 😉

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • Matty123M
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                                        @Giles:

                                        @Matty123:

                                        my wife would not allow me back in the house and I don’t blame her.

                                        Nor me.  Oh wait, you were talking specifically about Covid-19…... 😉 😉

                                        Now I’m definitely coming for a visit.

                                        Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                          • SeulS
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                                            So sick and tired of sick people  coming into the store… It's also so exhausting keeping track of when to clean hands/ disinfect them,... Again and again and again...

                                            Slightly good news for Belgium: 2nd day in a row that the amount of new cases went down... Either our intake of beer protects us better, or we're just extremely lucky, cause ALL our surrounding countries seem to be SOL...

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