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    • DougNgD
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      The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, the next best time is now

      There, I said it. Now it’s a middle aged chinese proverb

      I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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      • GilesG
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        We have 3 freezers in the house.  Have done for years.

        One is in the kitchen and contains stuff I need regularly for cooking, and ice which Paula needs regularly for G&T's.  It is always full to overflowing.

        One is in the basement and contains stock, meals that I have doubled up on when originally cooked - stews, chili, curries & fish pies, frozen veg and fish.  It is always full.

        One is in the shed and is our meat supply.  I have always bought in bulk infrequently, and I guess we were halfway through a cycle, so it is about half full.

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • GraemeG
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          Interview with Larry Brilliant, an epidemiologist.

          https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-interview-larry-brilliant-smallpox-epidemiologist/

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          • DougNgD
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            Padmore residence: the original hoarders of freezers

            I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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            • DougNgD
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              @Graeme:

              Interview with Larry Brilliant, an epidemiologist.

              https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-interview-larry-brilliant-smallpox-epidemiologist/

              Good article. And I like that he’s answered (for me) how testing is important.

              I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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              • SeulS
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                People are scared to buy fresh bread… It's weird... Other than that: in my store everything was re-stocked except for flour... They said summat about some insufferable twat in Gosport, UK who bought it all... No idea what it was all about...

                And yeah: things go MENTAL once a lockdown is announced... I'd suggest NOT going to the stores the day it's announced... Go the 2nd or 3rd day of the lockdown... You'll thank me later... And be creative when summat's not in stock ffs...

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                • GilesG
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                  Fingers crossed for our Italian friends….

                  'Lowest rise' in confirmed cases in Italy since outbreak began'

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • neph93N
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                    I noticed that. “Good” news, from a relativist perspective. Hope they have turned a corner.

                    «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                    We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                      @Giles:

                      Fingers crossed for our Italian friends….

                      'Lowest rise' in confirmed cases in Italy since outbreak began'

                      Seems like the curve is starring to flatten out which is good! - http://bing.com/covid

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                      • Stuart.TS
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                        Point 1. I'd really recommend people check the stats around new cases and deaths on sites like WHO and NHS. UK the media is SERIOUSLY misrepresenting the data.

                        Point 2.Reeves and Mortimer predicted this is the 90s 😂

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                        • Stuart.TS
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                          @Seul:

                          People are scared to buy fresh bread… It's weird... Other than that: in my store everything was re-stocked except for flour... They said summat about some insufferable twat in Gosport, UK who bought it all... No idea what it was all about...

                          And yeah: things go MENTAL once a lockdown is announced... I'd suggest NOT going to the stores the day it's announced... Go the 2nd or 3rd day of the lockdown... You'll thank me later... And be creative when summat's not in stock ffs...

                          Agreed. I've seen so much kindness in my local town today. There has been no panic buying. There has been low stock, but not a symptom of panic buying.

                          Today I witnessed 3 business owners giving away the last of their bread, milk, eggs, and any other perishable goods for FREE because they were shutting their doors for the foreseeable future and didn't want to waste valuable food.

                          As a species we aren't wired to live in massively dense populations. We go fucking mental and don't think about others. Though you do get pockets of good communities in larger towns and cities, smaller towns and villages come into their own at times like this.

                          It isn't hard to be kind, and when we want, we can have long memories. People will pay those good businesses back once this passes, and hopefully let the money grabbing bastards go to the wall.

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                          • Stuart.TS
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                            I can state with good authority the the measures announced today by the UK Government are likely to be in place for 12 to 18 months. The current 21 day deprivation of citizen's liberty (art 5.2 ECtHR) have been passed by Parliament with the intention to lessen and retighten intermittently throughout that period unless there is sufficient evidence that a) covid 19 has permenantly regressed, or b) tests show that people are testing with antibodies that protect against this particular strain.

                            The lessening and restriction approach is a public health model designed to give people potential limited exposure to the virus to give those with healthy immune systems a chance to develop antibodies.

                            I couldn't sit on this anymore.

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                            • DougNgD
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                              Thank you Stuart.

                              In a past life I was a person "in the know" as well, and I know how much you just stuck your neck out.

                              I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                Wow. I have to say all of our governments should probably be taking theses steps. Anybody who says they aren’t scared of this thing is either dumb or nuts. Or both.

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                                • GraemeG
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                                  I'm not doing Coronavirus sober.

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                                  • ChrisC
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                                    @sabergirl:

                                    Wow. I have to say all of our governments should probably be taking theses steps. Anybody who says they aren’t scared of this thing is either dumb or nuts. Or both.

                                    I read an article that described how doctors in Spain are taking people over 65 off of ventilators so they could be used to help younger people survive.  I can't even begin to process that.

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                                      Omega Man
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                                      Italy, I suspect, has been doing that for a while  :(.

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                                      • JDelageJ
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                                        To be perfectly honest, doctors take those kind of decisions even in peace time. What's changed is the threshold and the frequency.

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                                        • neph93N
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                                          @sabergirl:

                                          Wow. I have to say all of our governments should probably be taking theses steps. Anybody who says they aren’t scared of this thing is either dumb or nuts. Or both.

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                                          Sorry to say most people European governments are. Boris has been woefully slow in doing this The new UK measures have been in effect in Norway since 12/3, and a host of other countries too, despite the virus showing up around the same time in the UK.

                                          The yo-yo lockdown Stuart describes is the predicted model a lot of other places, with 12-18 months being the predicted time before a vaccine arrives. The damage to society and the economy is goiing to be immense, but the alternative isn’t just a lot of people dying from Covid-19, it is the complete collapse of the health system with everything that entails. It’s a shitshow.

                                          «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                          • ChapC
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                                            @neph93:

                                            @sabergirl:

                                            Wow. I have to say all of our governments should probably be taking theses steps. Anybody who says they aren’t scared of this thing is either dumb or nuts. Or both.

                                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                            Sorry to say most people European governments are. Boris has been woefully slow in doing this The new UK measures have been in effect in Norway since 12/3, and a host of other countries too, despite the virus showing up around the same time in the UK.

                                            The yo-yo lockdown Stuart describes is the predicted model a lot of other places, with 12-18 months being the predicted time before a vaccine arrives. The damage to society and the economy is goiing to be immense, but the alternative isn’t just a lot of people dying from Covid-19, it is the complete collapse of the health system with everything that entails. It’s a shitshow.

                                            It’s unbelievable what’s still going on in UK

                                            God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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