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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

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    • mclaincauseyM
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      I'm not sure I'll ever go past 21oz, personally. If it's cold enough to feel like I need a heavier jean, jeans may not be appropriate, and if they are, I can always throw on some long underwear.

      Being heavy isn't IH's cachet IMO. Making wearable, durable, heavy, timeless/classic clothes is (even though they've proven to be good at making normal-weight clothes too).

      Think it, be it.

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      • GilesG
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        When we had to do a product recall on the original IHSH-101 a few years back, the response we had from our customers made me completely reevaluate what Iron Heart is all about.  The next time I saw H, I said, Let's change "We don't do light" to "We don't do crap". It was that whole experience of realising how much our customers appreciated our quality and construction, and not necessarily heavy-weight, that spawned the 14oz denim…..

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • neph93N
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          @Giles:

          When we had to do a product recall on the original IHSH-101 a few years back, the response we had from our customers made me completely reevaluate what Iron Heart is all about.  The next time I saw H, I said, Let's change "We don't do light" to "We don't do crap". It was that whole experience of realising how much our customers appreciated our quality and construction, and not necessarily heavy-weight, that spawned the 14oz denim…..

          I remember that, and the response so well. I was pretty new here and was impressed both by the manouver and the forum response to it (with one or two exceptions [emoji23]).

          It’s the double whammy of quality and transparency in connection with customers then. The goods are one thing but without the customer service they are still only half the package.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

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          • GilesG
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            One notable exception…..

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              Did he end up keeping the shirt?

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              • GilesG
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                If we are talking about the same one notable exception, yes the aresehole did….

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • gaseousclayG
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                  @mclaincausey:

                  I'm not sure I'll ever go past 21oz, personally. If it's cold enough to feel like I need a heavier jean, jeans may not be appropriate, and if they are, I can always throw on some long underwear.

                  I'm in the same predicament. The heaviest denim I own are the 22oz Pronto jeans which I got off the BST and it's unlikely i'll go above that. 14oz denim suits me year round and I'll simply wear thermal underwear when it gets cold.

                  WTB:
                  IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                  IHSH-19

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                  • BroarkB
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                    I remember the 101 release, I think it was one of my first IH shirts.
                    The fallout with one former member in particular.  😃

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                    • Paul9221P
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                      @gaseousclay:

                      @mclaincausey:

                      I'm not sure I'll ever go past 21oz, personally. If it's cold enough to feel like I need a heavier jean, jeans may not be appropriate, and if they are, I can always throw on some long underwear.

                      I'm in the same predicament. The heaviest denim I own are the 22oz Pronto jeans which I got off the BST and it's unlikely i'll go above that. 14oz denim suits me year round and I'll simply wear thermal underwear when it gets cold.

                      You guys should really try the 25oz in your cut of choice.  Don't get me wrong, I do like the 21oz but the 25oz is something really special.  It is a little warmer, but I wouldn't say it's 20% warmer.  And the fabric becomes so soft over time while still maintaining a certain firmness.  At least that's my experience with the 634XHS and PIH5DCT, I've still got a ways to go on the 888XHSib.

                      Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                      • Max PowerM
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                        These days anything above 16 oz seems unbearable thick / warm to me, even IH 21 oz. II think I could get used to it again but right now I feel like 14 oz is the perfect weight for comfortable and Lasting denim. That's why I hope the IH 14 oz black denim will come in a cut that I  like.

                        @elclintor:

                        > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                        • AlexA
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                          @Max:

                          That's why I hope the IH 14 oz black denim will come in a cut that I  like.

                          It's coming in 634, 666, 555, 777 & 888. You should be safe  🙂

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                          • neph93N
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                            @Paul9221:

                            Don't get me wrong, I do like the 21oz but the 25oz is something really special.  It is a little warmer, but I wouldn't say it's 20% warmer.

                            This is my experience too. There isn’t a big change. The OG 18oz and the UHR are much warmer than both the 21oz and XHS. Weight isn’t the only factor, tightness of weave plays a big role.

                            I like and am used too the heavy stuff. I’ve just got to try the old 14oz for the first time after a trade,and it is the lightest denim I’ve worn in years. We’ve had 25C temps up here recently and it was pleasant to wear. While I miss the heft I could see myself keeping some 14oz on hand for the warmer days. Avoiding shorts at any cost is far more important to me than keeping my denim over 20oz. I accept that is my quirk though. I’ve read a few comments suggesting that the second version of the 14oz is warmer than the first however.

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

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                            • mclaincauseyM
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                              @Max:

                              These days anything above 16 oz seems unbearable thick / warm to me, even IH 21 oz. II think I could get used to it again but right now I feel like 14 oz is the perfect weight for comfortable and Lasting denim. That's why I hope the IH 14 oz black denim will come in a cut that I  like.

                              Yeah I have had 21oz and liked it fine but it's too heavy to be ideal for me, which means 25oz isn't even on my radar. Love the 14oz and the 18oz vintage. Especially the latter.

                              Think it, be it.

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                              • DionD
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                                @Max:

                                These days anything above 16 oz seems unbearable thick / warm to me, even IH 21 oz.

                                It's the complete opposite for me. Some years ago I used to struggle wearing 14 oz denim during summer but now I can rock 21 oz, UHR and even XHS when it's warm. I guess it's mostly a matter of habit.

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  For me, my preferences for the "lighter" denims has more to do with the drape, texture, weight, and feel of the fabric than it does warmth.

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                  • xtcclassicX
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                                    @neph93:

                                    @Paul9221:

                                    Don't get me wrong, I do like the 21oz but the 25oz is something really special.  It is a little warmer, but I wouldn't say it's 20% warmer.

                                    I’ve read a few comments suggesting that the second version of the 14oz is warmer than the first however.

                                    It is. The 16oz Vintage denim feels much cooler and breezier if that’s what you’re looking for. It’s a great denim, but so is the 142, it’s just noticeably warmer.

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                                    • AnesthetistA
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                                      I dont have much to add over what others have already said. Heavy for the sake of being heavy doesnt do it for me. I tried the XHS a few years back and I couldnt pull it off.
                                      21oz is probably still my favorite IH denim but the lighter stuff (esp the RE) has become very appealing lately.

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