IH-555-XHSib - 25oz Selvedge Denim Slim Jeans - Indigo/Black
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It might not produce the best fades but it works with my lifestyle, aka having food dropped on me by small children.
That is key mate. No point treating your clothes like someone else lives in them.
I see some great looking jeans that haven’t seen water in 6, 8, 12 months and I think about what mine would be like if I did that. They would stink, probably be mildewed, and be covered in all kinds of crap. Why would I do that?
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It might not produce the best fades but it works with my lifestyle, aka having food dropped on me by small children.
I see some great looking jeans that haven’t seen water in 6, 8, 12 months and I think about what mine would be like if I did that. They would stink, probably be mildewed, and be covered in all kinds of crap. Why would I do that?
I've seen some.great looking jeans that have been washed also. I think there is a mental stigma about losing indigo after washing. Honestly, I was my raws about every 2 to 3 months. The fades are there, the dark indigo is present and my jeans are clean. Washing also prolongs the life and prevents premature holes. Especially with this pair of XHSib, I have not noticed even a tinge of indigo loss after 3 hot washes. They are still super duper dark on the front of the calf, and if anything the bright whites pop more afterwards. I can't express this enough, washing is a good thing, boys.
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Why do you think that myth exists @giles? I've seen it many times all over the internet.
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There have been many "sophists" over the years, saying things that got them either notoriety or more business. From my experience, the nudie jeans movement started it, and the mynudies forum and superfuture community reinforced the hype. There are lots of guilty parties, with jeans makers, wearers and watchers all playing roles in the proliferation of unsubstantiated opinions.
Swissjeansfreak never washes his jeans, Indonesian denim wearers love to scrub away all the indigo for artifically high contrast fades, and even Iron Heart clothes say "wear as long as possible without washing." The problem with this is that "not washing" is not the active ingredient for fades. The fit, the creases, the wear time/wear environment and the denim itself all impact fading. Iron Heart's "wear as long as possible" is unfortunately under explained. The idea is that the long wear time will allow for creases to develop, and the creases will fade first so the longer you go without washing, the more contrast you will achieve. But this is not totally true. I have years and years of fades to prove this. I always soak before the first wear, and when i put them on while damp, the jeans crease to fit my body. After that, the creases are built into the memory of the fabric and I can wash every two weeks or so and come out with epic fades without needing to go through months of filthy jeans.
Case in point, my UHR. Always washed when dirty. Hang dry, wear while damp. Work. Repeat…
First week:
26 months later:
And on the topic of spot washing. I had to do an emergency spot wash on some rogue rosin when they were still pretty raw. I got the rosin out, did a gentle wash, and kept on working. The spot is now concealed amongst the fades and not noticeable. Do whatever you need to get them clean, it will blend in with time. Here’s a pic, you can see the white spot on the upper right thigh.
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@adam313:
There have been many "sophists" over the years, saying things that got them either notoriety or more business. From my experience, the nudie jeans movement started it, and the mynudies forum and superfuture community reinforced the hype. There are lots of guilty parties, with jeans makers, wearers and watchers all playing roles in the proliferation of unsubstantiated opinions.
Swissjeansfreak never washes his jeans, Indonesian denim wearers love to scrub away all the indigo for artifically high contrast fades, and even Iron Heart clothes say "wear as long as possible without washing." The problem with this is that "not washing" is not the active ingredient for fades. The fit, the creases, the wear time/wear environment and the denim itself all impact fading. Iron Heart's "wear as long as possible" is unfortunately under explained. The idea is that the long wear time will allow for creases to develop, and the creases will fade first so the longer you go without washing, the more contrast you will achieve. But this is not totally true. I have years and years of fades to prove this. I always soak before the first wear, and when i put them on while damp, the jeans crease to fit my body. After that, the creases are built into the memory of the fabric and I can wash every two weeks or so and come out with epic fades without needing to go through months of filthy jeans.
Case in point, my UHR. Always washed when dirty. Hang dry, wear while damp. Work. Repeat…
And on the topic of spot washing. I had to do an emergency spot wash on some rogue rosin when they were still pretty raw. I got the rosin out, did a gentle wash, and kept on working. The spot is now concealed amongst the fades and not noticeable. Do whatever you need to get them clean, it will blend in with time. Here’s a pic, you can see the white spot on the upper right thigh.
Thank you for sharing.
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As someone who tub washes because they have a terrible washing machine, the water is certainly blue afterward. I'm not sure how else one could explain that. That said, I think losing indigo in the wash is a good thing. It's what helps fades evolve. Going extended extended periods without washing is bad for fades, bad for the fabric itself.
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I agree @Occupant. Obviously everyone is losing Indigo every time they wear their jeans, so it’s silly to make washing the scapegoat.
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Psst, my lama Becky licks my stains out.
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Day 3… loving these jeans!
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As someone who tub washes because they have a terrible washing machine, the water is certainly blue afterward. I'm not sure how else one could explain that. That said, I think losing indigo in the wash is a good thing. It's what helps fades evolve. Going extended extended periods without washing is bad for fades, bad for the fabric itself.
You’ll loss a bit of indigo, either excess or where it has been abraded, but I bet you can see no difference in the base color before and after.
It does not take a lot of indigo to colour a tub of water, but it takes a lot to dye the denim for a pair of jeans. So The colour loss as a percentage is minuscule…
When I was younger I put some hem cut offs in the wash everytime I washed stuff. I was hoping to document the change of colour over time. After 6 months and innumerable washes I gave up because there was very little colour change
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It’s a complicated topic and shouldn’t be taken for granted that all washing routines are the same. If people wash carelessly, then they might not get the same positive results. Everyone has their own preference. Washing routines have been repeatedly discussed on this forum, but for posterity I wash inside out on “warm” usually (ice cold if my jeans are covered in trichomes, to allow the trichomes to fall off rather than get sticky), and take extra care to remove them promptly after a low spin cycle and shake out and smooth the wrinkles. I hang to dry and eventually turn them rightside out when damp, and put on before totally dry and wear around. If the jeans are still newish I make sure to do this while still slightly damp to help reinforce the creases. If they are evolved, I don’t need to do this every time because the fades are essentially set and I can let them dry completely before wearing again. Your patience will be rewarded…
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If they are still brand newish, a soak may be preferable to a full wash cycle for obvious reasons. Sometimes I’ve done a soapy soak followed by a clean water soak to get them clean. $400 jeans deserve extra attention in my opinion. r/rawdenim can say what they like, the proof is in the fades and longevity…Iron Heart for life!
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Fantastic fit @Smiladon. Surprised you all have very minimal if any knee bags with such a slim fit. My heaviest IH (appear heavier than my 666 uhr), 634 sexih13 developed some and I did everything to prevent.
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@adam313:
It’s a complicated topic and shouldn’t be taken for granted that all washing routines are the same. If people wash carelessly, then they might not get the same positive results. Everyone has their own preference. Washing routines have been repeatedly discussed on this forum, but for posterity I wash inside out on “warm” usually (ice cold if my jeans are covered in trichomes, to allow the trichomes to fall off rather than get sticky), and take extra care to remove them promptly after a low spin cycle and shake out and smooth the wrinkles. I hang to dry and eventually turn them rightside out when damp, and put on before totally dry and wear around. If the jeans are still newish I make sure to do this while still slightly damp to help reinforce the creases. If they are evolved, I don’t need to do this every time because the fades are essentially set and I can let them dry completely before wearing again. Your patience will be rewarded…
you mention trichromes, is this after a day of trimming, or just walking around?
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Fantastic fit @Smiladon. Surprised you all have very minimal if any knee bags with such a slim fit. My heaviest IH (appear heavier than my 666 uhr), 634 sexih13 developed some and I did everything to prevent.
Thanks @Jdub
I think I know what you're referring too and I've only had that happen when i wash a pair and then wear them when they are still a bit damp and I get big front knee bags… So, i don't do that anymore. -
you mention trichromes, is this after a day of trimming, or just walking around?
Trimming as well as Harvesting, De-fanning, Hanging and Packaging. Trimming days are my favorite. I get to bring out my Japanese Chikamasa blades (b-500sl are my preferred style) and manicure beautiful buds all day. I’m marinating in an ambient haze of trichomes and I love it. Actually got banned for posting pics years ago, so I’m only gonna describe it now lol. The cleanest days are the water hash or freezer days.
