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    IH-555-XHSib - 25oz Selvedge Denim Slim Jeans - Indigo/Black

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    • GilesG
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      Sorry, was meant to be "small"

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • ChapC
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        @Giles:

        Sorry, was meant to be "small"

        Off course  😉

        God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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        • GilesG
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          😉

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • OaktaviaO
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            @Wlemon:

            I have a question for all of you who don't wash your jeans. What's your strategy? When you get a stain do you just ignore it? I'm ordered three days in and have several food stains.  😃

            Bruh I just fuckin wash 'em.

            IG: electricindigowizard

            "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

            WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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            • WlemonW
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              @neph93 That's the issue I've had with spot washing. My OCD won't allow that.  😢 I already notice a lighter patch and it's driving me bonkers. Next time, I'm just giving them a wash.

              Anyway, thanks for all of your input. With my pair of Ooe Yofukuten's jeans, I've just done a quick bathtub soak and that's worked. It might not produce the best fades but it works with my lifestyle, aka having food dropped on me by small children.  (Just last night, my daughter rub in a glob of sticky rice into these jeans.)

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              • neph93N
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                @Wlemon:

                It might not produce the best fades but it works with my lifestyle, aka having food dropped on me by small children.

                That is key mate. No point treating your clothes like someone else lives in them.

                I see some great looking jeans that haven’t seen water in 6, 8, 12 months and I think about what mine would be like if I did that. They would stink, probably be mildewed, and be covered in all kinds of crap. Why would I do that?

                “Some of those that work forces
                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                • OaktaviaO
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                  @neph93:

                  @Wlemon:

                  It might not produce the best fades but it works with my lifestyle, aka having food dropped on me by small children.

                  I see some great looking jeans that haven’t seen water in 6, 8, 12 months and I think about what mine would be like if I did that. They would stink, probably be mildewed, and be covered in all kinds of crap. Why would I do that?

                  I've seen some.great looking jeans that have been washed also. I think there is a mental stigma about losing indigo after washing. Honestly, I was my raws about every 2 to 3 months. The fades are there, the dark indigo is present and my jeans are clean. Washing also prolongs the life and prevents premature holes. Especially with this pair of XHSib, I have not noticed even a tinge of indigo loss after 3 hot washes. They are still super duper dark on the front of the calf, and if anything the bright whites pop more afterwards. I can't express this enough, washing is a good thing, boys.

                  IG: electricindigowizard

                  "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                  WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                  • GilesG
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                    YOU DO NOT LOSE INDIGO FROM PROPER ROPE- DYED DENIM (or at least any appreciable amount) BY WASHING.

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • WlemonW
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                      Why do you think that myth exists @giles? I've seen it many times all over the internet.

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                      • OaktaviaO
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                        @Giles:

                        YOU DO NOT LOSE INDIGO FROM PROPER ROPE- DYED DENIM (or at least any appreciable amount) BY WASHING.

                        Bingo

                        IG: electricindigowizard

                        "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                        WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                        • ?
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                          There have been many "sophists" over the years, saying things that got them either notoriety or more business. From my experience, the nudie jeans movement started it, and the mynudies forum and superfuture community reinforced the hype. There are lots of guilty parties, with jeans makers, wearers and watchers all playing roles in the proliferation of unsubstantiated opinions.

                          Swissjeansfreak never washes his jeans, Indonesian denim wearers love to scrub away all the indigo for artifically high contrast fades, and even Iron Heart clothes say "wear as long as possible without washing." The problem with this is that "not washing" is not the active ingredient for fades. The fit, the creases, the wear time/wear environment and the denim itself all impact fading. Iron Heart's "wear as long as possible" is unfortunately under explained. The idea is that the long wear time will allow for creases to develop, and the creases will fade first so the longer you go without washing, the more contrast you will achieve. But this is not totally true. I have years and years of fades to prove this. I always soak before the first wear, and when i put them on while damp, the jeans crease to fit my body. After that, the creases are built into the memory of the fabric and I can wash every two weeks or so and come out with epic fades without needing to go through months of filthy jeans.

                          Case in point, my UHR. Always washed when dirty. Hang dry, wear while damp. Work. Repeat…

                          First week:

                          26 months later:

                          And on the topic of spot washing. I had to do an emergency spot wash on some rogue rosin when they were still pretty raw. I got the rosin out, did a gentle wash, and kept on working. The spot is now concealed amongst the fades and not noticeable. Do whatever you need to get them clean, it will blend in with time. Here’s a pic, you can see the white spot on the upper right thigh.

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                          • Pyruvate71P
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                            @adam313:

                            There have been many "sophists" over the years, saying things that got them either notoriety or more business. From my experience, the nudie jeans movement started it, and the mynudies forum and superfuture community reinforced the hype. There are lots of guilty parties, with jeans makers, wearers and watchers all playing roles in the proliferation of unsubstantiated opinions.

                            Swissjeansfreak never washes his jeans, Indonesian denim wearers love to scrub away all the indigo for artifically high contrast fades, and even Iron Heart clothes say "wear as long as possible without washing." The problem with this is that "not washing" is not the active ingredient for fades. The fit, the creases, the wear time/wear environment and the denim itself all impact fading. Iron Heart's "wear as long as possible" is unfortunately under explained. The idea is that the long wear time will allow for creases to develop, and the creases will fade first so the longer you go without washing, the more contrast you will achieve. But this is not totally true. I have years and years of fades to prove this. I always soak before the first wear, and when i put them on while damp, the jeans crease to fit my body. After that, the creases are built into the memory of the fabric and I can wash every two weeks or so and come out with epic fades without needing to go through months of filthy jeans.

                            Case in point, my UHR. Always washed when dirty. Hang dry, wear while damp. Work. Repeat…

                            And on the topic of spot washing. I had to do an emergency spot wash on some rogue rosin when they were still pretty raw. I got the rosin out, did a gentle wash, and kept on working. The spot is now concealed amongst the fades and not noticeable. Do whatever you need to get them clean, it will blend in with time. Here’s a pic, you can see the white spot on the upper right thigh.

                            Thank you for sharing.  🙂

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                            • OccupantO
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                              As someone who tub washes because they have a terrible washing machine, the water is certainly blue afterward. I'm not sure how else one could explain that. That said, I think losing indigo in the wash is a good thing. It's what helps fades evolve. Going extended extended periods without washing is bad for fades, bad for the fabric itself.

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                              • ?
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                                I agree @Occupant. Obviously everyone is losing Indigo every time they wear their jeans, so it’s silly to make washing the scapegoat.

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                                • J
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                                  Psst, my lama Becky licks my stains out.

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                                    Truly great post/reply. Best post ever status in my book.

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                                    • SmiladonS
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                                      Day 3… loving these jeans!

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        @Occupant:

                                        As someone who tub washes because they have a terrible washing machine, the water is certainly blue afterward. I'm not sure how else one could explain that. That said, I think losing indigo in the wash is a good thing. It's what helps fades evolve. Going extended extended periods without washing is bad for fades, bad for the fabric itself.

                                        You’ll loss a bit of indigo, either excess or where it has been abraded, but I bet you can see no difference in the base color before and after.

                                        It does not take a lot of indigo to colour a tub of water, but it takes a lot to dye the denim for a pair of jeans.  So The colour loss as a percentage is minuscule…

                                        When I was younger I put some hem cut offs in the wash everytime I washed stuff.  I was hoping to document the change of colour over time.  After 6 months and innumerable washes I gave up because there was very little colour change

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • OaktaviaO
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                                          Wow super interesting to hear all this insight from you guys. Thanks @Giles and @adam313 for sharing. I think/r/rawdenim would benefit from reading what y'all stated. Lots of washing debate on that forum.

                                          IG: electricindigowizard

                                          "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                                          WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                                          • ?
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                                            It’s a complicated topic and shouldn’t be taken for granted that all washing routines are the same. If people wash carelessly, then they might not get the same positive results. Everyone has their own preference. Washing routines have been repeatedly discussed on this forum, but for posterity I wash inside out on “warm” usually (ice cold if my jeans are covered in trichomes, to allow the trichomes to fall off rather than get sticky), and take extra care to remove them promptly after a low spin cycle and shake out and smooth the wrinkles. I hang to dry and eventually turn them rightside out when damp, and put on before totally dry and wear around. If the jeans are still newish I make sure to do this while still slightly damp to help reinforce the creases. If they are evolved, I don’t need to do this every time because the fades are essentially set and I can let them dry completely before wearing again. Your patience will be rewarded…

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