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    IHSH-331-BLK - 12oz Moleskin CPO Shirt - Black

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      sabergirl
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      @Crease:

      going back and forth between this and the 10oz version from SE. I generally prefer heavier weight, but have never owned any moleskin. Does anyone wear these as just a shirt or always best as an over layer?

      I feel like I still haven’t seen an answer if this (and the type III) is in fact a heavier moleskin that SE. [mention]Alex [/mention] can you please illuminate us?

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        The email that went out announcing the shirts stated that it was a new fabric. Also I had asked this question earlier and Giles had responded that it was completely different.

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          @Crease:

          going back and forth between this and the 10oz version from SE. I generally prefer heavier weight, but have never owned any moleskin. Does anyone wear these as just a shirt or always best as an over layer?

          I recently bought the 10oz from SE and it feels pretty substantial.  Don't know how much a difference the 2oz will make, but the 331 is definitely gonna feel even heftier.  I intended to buy mine to wear as a shacket, but even after sizing up to a large (I'm usually an IH medium), it fits small and is perfect as a shirt for me.  I don't mind though because it probably works better as a shirt instead of a jacket if you live somewhere that gets really cold, which I do.  I guess I'd characterize it as a heavy shirt or a medium weight jacket that is good for cold nights but not suitable for real winter weather. Some other things to consider are the $95 USD difference in price and if you prefer the western yokes or not.  You can't go wrong either way.

          Hope what I wrote helps and makes sense.  My edibles kicked in while writing this.

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          • AlexA
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            It's a new, 12oz fabric.

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            • Daniel SanD
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              @Alex
              Why is this awesome shirt so much more expensive , compared to a UHF ?

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              • AlexA
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                I presume that the fabric is harder to make, or more difficult to source. They cost us significantly more to buy from Japan than UHFs

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                • Daniel SanD
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                  Ah ok, thank you Alex.

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                  • GilesG
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                    And often, in a typically Japanese way, legacy stuff is left at the original cost for way longer than it makes commercial sense to do so, because they are too embarrassed to pass on bad news…...

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      Thanks for the info, everyone!

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                      • CreaseC
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                        I got a chance to try this on yesterday at Berkeley Supply. I was expecting more of a brushed texture to this, but it is not. I actually like it that way since I kind of prefer a harder surface feel! Was super tempted to pick it up, but held off. The weight did feel more like a heavy shirt than a jacket to me. Its gets pretty hot here in Colorado in the summer so I think it could be used as a jacket in that time (though I still try to wear my 526PJ :D). I am thinking it might be a bigger difference on whether you like the western yokes or not.

                        Man, first they hit me with all the green goodness and now they are getting me with the black!

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                          Beautiful. I wish the IHSH-218 - "The Johnny Cash III" was also completely blacked-out, rather than the white selvedge tickers. Especially at the hem gusset; a bit immature looking rather than this CPO's refinement.

                          “Use whatever options you have at your disposal to maintain your sanity without hurting yourself or others.”

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                            @hideglue:

                            Beautiful. I wish the IHSH-218 - "The Johnny Cash III" was also completely blacked-out, rather than the white selvedge tickers. Especially at the hem gusset; a bit immature looking rather than this CPO's refinement.

                            That's why I went for the black snaps on mine.

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                              @hideglue:

                              Beautiful. I wish the IHSH-218 - "The Johnny Cash III" was also completely blacked-out, rather than the white selvedge tickers. Especially at the hem gusset; a bit immature looking rather than this CPO's refinement.

                              That is a function of the design. The westerns are built the same way regardless  of material. CPO’s are made in such a way that the selvedge ID wouldn’t show, even if there was one (which there wouldn’t be in this case).

                              «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                My snap swap decision wasn't based on the selvedge ID,but for me,as much as I loved the brass snaps on the Olive 331,they didn't work for me on the black version. When they first made the Over dyed 178 the snaps ended up looking kind of silvery/pewtery which I would've loved on this shirt. Sometimes wish there was a different,other than brass,material,option for that iconic IH snap.

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                                • hideglueH
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                                  @Jett129:

                                  @hideglue:

                                  Beautiful. I wish the IHSH-218 - "The Johnny Cash III" was also completely blacked-out, rather than the white selvedge tickers. Especially at the hem gusset; a bit immature looking rather than this CPO's refinement.

                                  That's why I went for the black snaps on mine.

                                  Nice!

                                  “Use whatever options you have at your disposal to maintain your sanity without hurting yourself or others.”

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    @Jett129:

                                    Sometimes wish there was a different,other than brass,material,option for that iconic IH snap.

                                    Never considered that before, but you’re so right. A laquered black version and a silver nickel version would be amazing.

                                    «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                    We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                      @neph93:

                                      @hideglue:

                                      Beautiful. I wish the IHSH-218 - "The Johnny Cash III" was also completely blacked-out, rather than the white selvedge tickers. Especially at the hem gusset; a bit immature looking rather than this CPO's refinement.

                                      That is a function of the design. The westerns are built the same way regardless  of material. CPO’s are made in such a way that the selvedge ID wouldn’t show, even if there was one (which there wouldn’t be in this case).

                                      Understood, @neph93. Thanks. I thought it would be as simple as folding back the ticker when sewn– or no gusset at all.  Perhaps I'll still pull the trigger and go ahead with the idea of just dyeing it black.

                                      “Use whatever options you have at your disposal to maintain your sanity without hurting yourself or others.”

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                                        @neph93:

                                        @Jett129:

                                        Sometimes wish there was a different,other than brass,material,option for that iconic IH snap.

                                        Never considered that before, but you’re so right. A lacquered black version and a silver nickel version would be amazing.

                                        The lacquered black version would be really sick!

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                                        • neph93N
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                                          @hideglue:

                                          I thought it would be as simple as folding back the ticker when sewn– or no gusset at all.  Perhaps I'll still pull the trigger and go ahead with the idea of just dyeing it black.

                                          I know what you mean. But there isn’t that level of manipulation of the original design.

                                          I know it seems like a dumb thing to do for a 350 dollar shirt, but a black sharpie will do the job very well.

                                          «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            Black Sharpie for the win…..

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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