Ultra Heavy Raw (UHR), AKA 21/23oz Denim
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I got my normal size, in this case a 33 — it's almost always either 33 or 34 for me. I aim for about 34.5 in the waist.
They felt good when I put them on right out of the bag. After two hot soaks with agitation, they definitely shrank a bit, but came back out to being comfortable pretty quickly, I'd say within a half hour. Since then I haven't worn them a whole lot, as it's pretty damn hot here at the moment, but I think I've gotten in about 5 wears and they haven't stretched out past original chart measurements.
I think the general rule of thumb for these, and for probably most (but of course not all, can't definitively say that) raw jeans is if they fit well before the soak, then they're good. They'll be tight after a soak or wash, but they should stretch back out with some wears.
ALSO should add, yes as pechelman and sabergirl said, definitely pay attention to the areas that won't stretch back out.
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Waist on the UHR should shrink an inch with soak/wash, but it will stretch out to pre-soak size again with wear. For waist measurement, you want a pair that looks good on the chart. Thigh, back rise, and inseam will shrink and won’t come back though, so be mindful of this too.
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I can't speak specifically about the UHRs, but my experience with unsanforized Samurais, PBJs, Flat Heads, etc., is that the back rise will stretch back to the original unwashed length (front rises tend not to, though). Also, thighs can pretty easily gain back about half of the size that they lose after that first soak.
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I have a question in general related to the shrinkage and the correct sizing. I'm usually around 80 cm on the waist and Tag size 30 fits me perfectly fine in the 666 XHS where the waist comes in around 78-79 cm new and after stretch it kind of settles around 80 to 81 cm. The UHR in 666 cut, the measurement says for tag size 31 the waist is 82.x cm and given the shrinkage of 1 inch on the waist, that would mean the waist would be around 80 cm roughly. Correct? So for my needs, I should be looking at Tag size 31 for the 666. Am I right?
You can expect the UHR to end up around where it started after shrinkage and stretch. So a W31 starting at 82cm will end up about there. I’ve always gone normal size on UHR.
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I have a question in general related to the shrinkage and the correct sizing. I'm usually around 80 cm on the waist and Tag size 30 fits me perfectly fine in the 666 XHS where the waist comes in around 78-79 cm new and after stretch it kind of settles around 80 to 81 cm. The UHR in 666 cut, the measurement says for tag size 31 the waist is 82.x cm and given the shrinkage of 1 inch on the waist, that would mean the waist would be around 80 cm roughly. Correct? So for my needs, I should be looking at Tag size 31 for the 666. Am I right?
You can expect the UHR to end up around where it started after shrinkage and stretch. So a W31 starting at 82cm will end up about there. I’ve always gone normal size on UHR.
Miss you @neph93 Your answer clears all that for me. So on the waist, I think I will stay with Tag size 30, but I don't know about the other measurements if they shrink will they come back? Those tension areas will definitely I suppose!
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I don't know about the other measurements if they shrink will they come back? Those tension areas will definitely I suppose!
Yeah… nowhere really gets the same amount of abuse as the waistband. That always stretches the most. But the thigh will stretch out again, possibly to the initial dimensions. As @sabergirl said, the rises, hem and inseam will not stretch.
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One minor clarification on the care instructions that say to drip dry after soak and before a machine wash. Is the drip dry necessary or can they go straight into the machine? Asking because there's slightly different guidance provided earlier in this thread quoted from Haraki via Giles saying to cold soak overnight before machine washing with no mention of an intermediate drip dry.
Thanks for bearing with me.
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Drip dry wait for them to dry then wash.
That what am doing. Right now
https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=17864.new;topicseen#new
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One minor clarification on the care instructions that say to drip dry after soak and before a machine wash. Is the drip dry necessary or can they go straight into the machine? Asking because there's slightly different guidance provided earlier in this thread quoted from Haraki via Giles saying to cold soak overnight before machine washing with no mention of an intermediate drip dry.
Thanks for bearing with me.
I put mine straight in the machine from the soak. Always worked out for me. Going in the machine wet also helps avoid marbling and abrasion lines.
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…I'm in! It's just too beautiful!
