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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

    Ultra Heavy Raw (UHR), AKA 21/23oz Denim

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    • neph93N
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      @the246guy:

      I have a question in general related to the shrinkage and the correct sizing. I'm usually around 80 cm on the waist and Tag size 30 fits me perfectly fine in the 666 XHS where the waist comes in around 78-79 cm new and after stretch it kind of settles around 80 to 81 cm. The UHR in 666 cut, the measurement says for tag size 31 the waist is 82.x cm and given the shrinkage of 1 inch on the waist, that would mean the waist would be around 80 cm roughly. Correct? So for my needs, I should be looking at Tag size 31 for the 666. Am I right?

      You can expect the UHR to end up around where it started after shrinkage and stretch. So a W31 starting at 82cm will end up about there. I’ve always gone normal size on UHR.

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

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        @neph93:

        @the246guy:

        I have a question in general related to the shrinkage and the correct sizing. I'm usually around 80 cm on the waist and Tag size 30 fits me perfectly fine in the 666 XHS where the waist comes in around 78-79 cm new and after stretch it kind of settles around 80 to 81 cm. The UHR in 666 cut, the measurement says for tag size 31 the waist is 82.x cm and given the shrinkage of 1 inch on the waist, that would mean the waist would be around 80 cm roughly. Correct? So for my needs, I should be looking at Tag size 31 for the 666. Am I right?

        You can expect the UHR to end up around where it started after shrinkage and stretch. So a W31 starting at 82cm will end up about there. I’ve always gone normal size on UHR.

        Miss you @neph93 Your answer clears all that for me. So on the waist, I think I will stay with Tag size 30, but I don't know about the other measurements if they shrink will they come back? Those tension areas will definitely I suppose!

        IH-555N | IH-666S-21 | IH-777D | IH-666 XHS | IHG-035 | IHB-06 | IH-721-KHA
        IHSH-251 | IHSH-07 | IHSH-246 * 2

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        • neph93N
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          @the246guy:

          I don't know about the other measurements if they shrink will they come back? Those tension areas will definitely I suppose!

          Yeah… nowhere really gets the same amount of abuse as the waistband. That always stretches the most. But the thigh will stretch out again, possibly to the initial dimensions. As @sabergirl said, the rises, hem and inseam will not stretch.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

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          • pechelmanP
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            One minor clarification on the care instructions that say to drip dry after soak and before a machine wash. Is the drip dry necessary or can they go straight into the machine? Asking because there's slightly different guidance provided earlier in this thread quoted from Haraki via Giles saying to cold soak overnight before machine washing with no mention of an intermediate drip dry.

            Thanks for bearing with me.

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            • KasiK
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              Drip dry wait for them to dry then wash.

              That what am doing. Right now

              https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=17864.new;topicseen#new

              The world's insane
              While you drink champagne
              And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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              • KasiK
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                @neph93
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                Mine going in for. Wash tomorrow

                Drip dry or tumble dry

                Says on inside tumble dry warm

                The world's insane
                While you drink champagne
                And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                • neph93N
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                  @Kasi:

                  @neph93
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                  Mine going in for. Wash tomorrow

                  Drip dry or tumble dry

                  Says on inside tumble dry warm

                  Ignore that mate. Unless you want the abrasion lines and marbling of course. I strongly recommend air drying.

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                  • neph93N
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                    @pechelman:

                    One minor clarification on the care instructions that say to drip dry after soak and before a machine wash. Is the drip dry necessary or can they go straight into the machine? Asking because there's slightly different guidance provided earlier in this thread quoted from Haraki via Giles saying to cold soak overnight before machine washing with no mention of an intermediate drip dry.

                    Thanks for bearing with me.

                    I put mine straight in the machine from the soak. Always worked out for me. Going in the machine wet also helps avoid marbling and abrasion lines.

                    “Some of those that work forces
                    Are the same that burn crosses”

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                    • KasiK
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                      @neph93

                      Thanks

                      Mine have dry now, but that not problem I will soak them wet with the shower head
                      Before I wash them.

                      Avoid marbling

                      Just making sure about the tumble dry, won’t be doing it.

                      Thanks

                      The world's insane
                      While you drink champagne
                      And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                      • pechelmanP
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                        @neph93:

                        I put mine straight in the machine from the soak. Always worked out for me. Going in the machine wet also helps avoid marbling and abrasion lines.

                        Thanks, neph!

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                        • GilesG
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                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • KasiK
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                            Younger Giles is in the video.

                            Are sure it’s you.

                            Nice video.

                            The world's insane
                            While you drink champagne
                            And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                            • SKTS
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                              Really enjoyed seeing this behind the scenes process. I don’t have a mind for engineering so seeing these machines do their thing is like magic to me. Humans can make some incredible things.

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                              • vaquero357V
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                                …I'm in! It's just too beautiful! 😃

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                                • GilesG
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                                  Are sure it’s you.

                                  🖕🖕

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • KasiK
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                                    @Giles:

                                    @Kasi:

                                    Are sure it’s you.

                                    🖕🖕

                                    😉 😃 ❤️

                                    The world's insane
                                    While you drink champagne
                                    And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                                      I know it's been mentioned that there's no current plan for 1955-UHR but since UHR is now in continuous production I'm still hoping one day y'all will make them again.  I'll just have to stick with the 888 for now.

                                      Looking for:
                                      IHSH-355-RED XXL
                                      IHSH-292-IND XXL
                                      IHSH-189-BRN XXL
                                      IHSH-358-IND XXL
                                      IHSH-288-IND XXL/XXXL

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                                      • TrulsT
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                                        How would you describe the main difference between the UHR 634 and the "regular" fantastic 21 oz 634. Like obviously they are raw and the normal ones are not, but beyond that they will fade better, are they made in a different fabric, do they feel warmer, will they get softer etc etc?

                                        Mvh

                                        Truls

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                                        • neph93N
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                                          @Truls:

                                          How would you describe the main difference between the UHR 634 and the "regular" fantastic 21 oz 634. Like obviously they are raw and the normal ones are not, but beyond that they will fade better, are they made in a different fabric, do they feel warmer, will they get softer etc etc?

                                          They are the absolute opposite of the 21oz in every way.

                                          They fade A LOT quicker. The 21oz is actually made to fade slowly. The UHR are likely the quickest faders I’ve ever owned.

                                          The weave of the denim is entirely different. The UHR is tight and dense, crunchy and stiff. The 21oz, soft and relaxed. The UHR softens and gets comfier, but never reaches the 21oz levels of comfort.

                                          The UHR are much warmer, the tighter weave means they are wind resistant. The warm air stays on the inside.

                                          “Some of those that work forces
                                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                          • mclaincauseyM
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                                            The warm air stays on the inside.

                                            I think I’ve finally figured out how to lobby the wife to support yet another paid of jeans…

                                            Think it, be it.

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