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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

    Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural

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    • goosehdG
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      @Olly what’s your input and experience with this shirt re:sizing and/or button pops?

      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        bbrtns
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        It is horsehide.. horsehide loosens up but doesn't stretch in general (not as much as cowhide)

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        • goosehdG
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          @Pipeboss713 My experience is that the shirt did the same for me the first couple of times (2) wearing it re: button's popping.  I'm on my 10/11 wear and I haven't been able to get it pop at all today.

          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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          • Daniel SanD
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            I would not expect much stretch.
            The leather gets softer of course, but if it’s too tight it stays to tight 😬

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            • NikN
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              Good party trick though

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              • KasiK
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                I have a trick but at your own risk’s
                Get a pair of pliers tight the button around the edge that goes inside the cap…

                I did it with my cpo shirt work for me

                Not to hard.

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                The world's insane
                While you drink champagne
                And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                • goosehdG
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                  I'm trying to save this thread before it runs off the rails:

                  1. I said the shirt will form to you, not stretch
                  2. The leather is stiff out of the bag and yes it will soften
                      A) this is accomplished by wearing and or somehow softening the leather (lotions, water, cremes, etc.)
                  3. Fit is subjective:  If you feel it's too tight, then it's too tight.
                  4. The buttons did pop in the beginning, they don't now.  I've worn it for about 10/11 wears.

                  IMO I think the shirt is perfect, but that's my $0.02.

                  I'm out…

                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                    I had the Ezo deerskin western in medium; and felt the only thing I didn’t like is that the chest feels restraining, not even to the extent that I can pop em. So this time around I got the pale baby in large, it’s fitting me like an over shirt, but that’s how I like my shirts, and I feel 100% happy with the fit.

                    Bottom line is I feel like you need to be comfortable wearing it, otherwise you might end up leaving it in the closet and letting it go at some point at a lower price.

                    And the guys are right horse leather in general doesn’t open up much.

                    Just some perspective from another guy.

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                      @Pipeboss713

                      Everything said, you are looking great in your fit pics though. I guess you are in for a thinker lol. A couple of more fit pics for your reference. I am 5’10” 165 lbs 40” chest

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                      • Pipeboss713P
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                        @Bofex2121345:

                        @Pipeboss713

                        Everything said, you are looking great in your fit pics though. I guess you are in for a thinker lol. A couple of more fit pics for your reference. I am 5’10” 165 lbs 40” chest

                        Gosh that looks awesome.
                        Thank you for sharing and for the pic
                        I lift weights myself and im getting close to 160 w/ a 40” chest.
                        Thinking hard about returning and going for a large.
                        The medium looks so sharp on me IMO but it’s pretty restricting and I worry if that will loosen up any

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                        • OllyO
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                          @Olly what’s your input and experience with this shirt re:sizing and/or button pops?

                          Hello mate, I go for my standard Western sizing - XL - and the only time the buttons have popped is when I've been riding at 70mph with only two buttons snapped on the bike.. so I just do an extra button up and we're good.

                          Stop thinking and start fucking doing..

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                          • Daniel SanD
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                            @Olly
                            sorry to ask, but on almost all western shirts it says you are wearing size L !?
                            I always order  the size you are wearing so I know it will fit , haha

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                            • OllyO
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                              @Daniel:

                              @Olly
                              sorry to ask, but on almost all western shirts it says you are wearing size L !?
                              I always order  the size you are wearing so I know it will fit , haha

                              Hello mate, for the lookbook I always wear the L samples, but generally I prefer an XL in the westerns. The exception was the serge military one - the XL swamped me. HMU if you ever have any concerns about sizing. I'm very much XL in the pale rider

                              Stop thinking and start fucking doing..

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                              • Daniel SanD
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                                ah ok, good to know.
                                thank you Olly

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                                  2nd wear, and loving it. Thanks again Giles for all your help with this one

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                                  • DmartD
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                                    That looks perfect on you. Enjoy this thing of a beauty!

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      Thanks again Giles for all your help with this one

                                      100% my pleasure…...

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • AdamCA
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                                        @jonnyindy Wow, that is a thing of beauty! What a fit

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                                        • goosehdG
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                                          Seconded:  Outstanding fit and enjoy!

                                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                            Thanks Guys!  To be honest, I went back and forth a bit on this sizing for this one. Initially I ordered a  2XL after trying on Giles’ XL at the trunk show in LA at GAH. It fit well, but I really wanted to layer it like this. So after much back and forth with the IH team (they promised I didn’t register on the PITA scale…) I returned the 2XL and got this 3XL, and it’s perfect 👍🏻

                                            For reference, I’m 6’1”, 210lbs and I’m wearing a 36 waist in those 301S’.

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