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    Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural

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    • goosehdG
      goosehd
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      I'm trying to save this thread before it runs off the rails:

      1. I said the shirt will form to you, not stretch
      2. The leather is stiff out of the bag and yes it will soften
          A) this is accomplished by wearing and or somehow softening the leather (lotions, water, cremes, etc.)
      3. Fit is subjective:  If you feel it's too tight, then it's too tight.
      4. The buttons did pop in the beginning, they don't now.  I've worn it for about 10/11 wears.

      IMO I think the shirt is perfect, but that's my $0.02.

      I'm out…

      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        I had the Ezo deerskin western in medium; and felt the only thing I didn’t like is that the chest feels restraining, not even to the extent that I can pop em. So this time around I got the pale baby in large, it’s fitting me like an over shirt, but that’s how I like my shirts, and I feel 100% happy with the fit.

        Bottom line is I feel like you need to be comfortable wearing it, otherwise you might end up leaving it in the closet and letting it go at some point at a lower price.

        And the guys are right horse leather in general doesn’t open up much.

        Just some perspective from another guy.

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        • B
          Bofex2121345
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          @Pipeboss713

          Everything said, you are looking great in your fit pics though. I guess you are in for a thinker lol. A couple of more fit pics for your reference. I am 5’10” 165 lbs 40” chest

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          • Pipeboss713P
            Pipeboss713
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            @Bofex2121345:

            @Pipeboss713

            Everything said, you are looking great in your fit pics though. I guess you are in for a thinker lol. A couple of more fit pics for your reference. I am 5’10” 165 lbs 40” chest

            Gosh that looks awesome.
            Thank you for sharing and for the pic
            I lift weights myself and im getting close to 160 w/ a 40” chest.
            Thinking hard about returning and going for a large.
            The medium looks so sharp on me IMO but it’s pretty restricting and I worry if that will loosen up any

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            • OllyO
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              @goosehd:

              @Olly what’s your input and experience with this shirt re:sizing and/or button pops?

              Hello mate, I go for my standard Western sizing - XL - and the only time the buttons have popped is when I've been riding at 70mph with only two buttons snapped on the bike.. so I just do an extra button up and we're good.

              Stop thinking and start fucking doing..

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              • Daniel SanD
                Daniel San
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                @Olly
                sorry to ask, but on almost all western shirts it says you are wearing size L !?
                I always order  the size you are wearing so I know it will fit , haha

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                • OllyO
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                  @Daniel:

                  @Olly
                  sorry to ask, but on almost all western shirts it says you are wearing size L !?
                  I always order  the size you are wearing so I know it will fit , haha

                  Hello mate, for the lookbook I always wear the L samples, but generally I prefer an XL in the westerns. The exception was the serge military one - the XL swamped me. HMU if you ever have any concerns about sizing. I'm very much XL in the pale rider

                  Stop thinking and start fucking doing..

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                  • Daniel SanD
                    Daniel San
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                    ah ok, good to know.
                    thank you Olly

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                    • J
                      jonnyindy
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                      2nd wear, and loving it. Thanks again Giles for all your help with this one

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                      • DmartD
                        Dmart
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                        That looks perfect on you. Enjoy this thing of a beauty!

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                        • GilesG
                          Giles
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                          @jonnyindy:

                          Thanks again Giles for all your help with this one

                          100% my pleasure…...

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • AdamCA
                            AdamC
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                            @jonnyindy Wow, that is a thing of beauty! What a fit

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                            • goosehdG
                              goosehd
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                              Seconded:  Outstanding fit and enjoy!

                              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                Thanks Guys!  To be honest, I went back and forth a bit on this sizing for this one. Initially I ordered a  2XL after trying on Giles’ XL at the trunk show in LA at GAH. It fit well, but I really wanted to layer it like this. So after much back and forth with the IH team (they promised I didn’t register on the PITA scale…) I returned the 2XL and got this 3XL, and it’s perfect 👍🏻

                                For reference, I’m 6’1”, 210lbs and I’m wearing a 36 waist in those 301S’.

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                                • NikN
                                  Nik
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                                  Fit looks great. Seems like the right size.

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                                  • SeulS
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                                    Fucking awesome lad! Perfect fit, and those sunnies suit you well btw. So many people wear the wrong'uns, it's become a(nother) pet peeve  😃 😎

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                                      @jonnyindy Congrats on the fit man! Got it spot on! Looking awesome. And I bet you feeling comfy. 🙂

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                                      • Pipeboss713P
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                                        Kept the medium
                                        No layering With western shirts. But it looks good w/ 11oz tee

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                                        • KirkK
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                                          Hey @goosehd , I’m curious to hear about your fit experience with the big buck and pale rider. I’ve combed through both threads and you picked up an xl in both, right?

                                          I also own the big buck (size L) and I’m considering snagging the pale rider too. When I made my big buck purchase I requested a specific measurement so the good folks at ihuk gave me the dimensions of the entire shirt. Below are the measurements for my big buck size L vs the pale rider L. The L big buck sizing seems to correspond more closely with the XL pale rider. Seeing how some are on the fence about sizing, I was curious to get your thoughts. For reference, I’m a L in IH westerns and work shirts. My L big buck seems a tad too big in the shoulders and sleeve length. So I’m wondering if the L pale rider will work. I don’t intend to layer it. Just a t-shirt or thermal underneath.

                                          Appreciate your insights. You look good in both. From my eye, I can see how the pale rider might be more narrow in the shoulders and chest.

                                          Big buck
                                          Shoulder: 18.7"
                                          Length: 30.2"
                                          Chest: 22.6
                                          Waist: 20.7"
                                          Opening: 21.1"
                                          Sleeve: 26.9"

                                          Pale rider
                                          Shoulder: 17.6”
                                          Length: 30.1”
                                          Chest: 21.8”
                                          Waist: 20.8
                                          Opening: 21.3
                                          Sleeve: 26.3

                                          @Pipeboss713 i think you made the right choice sticking with your M.

                                          we’re trying our best

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                                          • Pipeboss713P
                                            Pipeboss713
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                                            @Kirk:

                                            Hey @goosehd , I’m curious to hear about your fit experience with the big buck and pale rider. I’ve combed through both threads and you picked up an xl in both, right?

                                            I also own the big buck (size L) and I’m considering snagging the pale rider too. When I made my big buck purchase I requested a specific measurement so the good folks at ihuk gave me the dimensions of the entire shirt. Below are the measurements for my big buck size L vs the pale rider L. The L big buck sizing seems to correspond more closely with the XL pale rider. Seeing how some are on the fence about sizing, I was curious to get your thoughts. For reference, I’m a L in IH westerns and work shirts. My L big buck seems a tad too big in the shoulders and sleeve length. So I’m wondering if the L pale rider will work. I don’t intend to layer it. Just a t-shirt or thermal underneath.

                                            Appreciate your insights. You look good in both. From my eye, I can see how the pale rider might be more narrow in the shoulders and chest.

                                            Big buck
                                            Shoulder: 18.7"
                                            Length: 30.2"
                                            Chest: 22.6
                                            Waist: 20.7"
                                            Opening: 21.1"
                                            Sleeve: 26.9"

                                            Pale rider
                                            Shoulder: 17.6”
                                            Length: 30.1”
                                            Chest: 21.8”
                                            Waist: 20.8
                                            Opening: 21.3
                                            Sleeve: 26.3

                                            @Pipeboss713 i think you made the right choice sticking with your M.

                                            Thanks for sharing the pics and measurements!
                                            Really makes me feel great about getting the medium
                                            I don’t plan on laying either but I can comfortably fit a 11oz Iron Heart tee underneath
                                            It’s still molding and flexing to my body so I imagine little more stretch

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                                            “He who guards his mouth, protects his life”
                                            Proverbs 13:3

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