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    Giles and Alex hit Japan - June 2022

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    • GilesG
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      My kind of pour.  Japan, what's not to love…...

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • AlexA
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        @popvulture:

        minus the rare chicken. Hard nope on that one.

        Why?

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        • goosehdG
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          From the U.S. CDC: In fact, about 1 in every 25 packages of chicken at the grocery store are contaminated with Salmonella…

          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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          • MattM
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            We were raised to fear raw chicken like we were raised to fear strangers in windowless vans with candy and puppies.

            Honestly, I’d rather get abducted than have food poisoning.

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            • popvultureP
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              Haha yeah we’re most certainly conditioned to deeply fear raw chicken here. I have friends who wash it with soap and water before cooking (I don’t go that far, but it still gives me the heebie jeebies).

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              • AlexA
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                @goosehd:

                From the U.S. CDC: In fact, about 1 in every 25 packages of chicken at the grocery store are contaminated with Salmonella…

                It’s fairly well documented that American meat processing is subpar. I’m not surprised that that is the case in the USA.

                E.coli is often linked to leafy greens in American (and UK for that matter) supermarkets, does that mean we should stop eating salad too?

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                • goosehdG
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                  Matt said it best, we are instilled from a very young age to be wary of raw chicken.  That’s a hard thing to break and it’s almost like a fear of snakes or spiders.

                  Re: greens I’m wary of that too…if in doubt we rinse it or toss it.  Probably unjustified but the thought of severe abdominal cramps and everything that goes with it does not sound like fun…

                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                  • goosehdG
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                    …and just like any irrational fear, under the right circumstances I would definitely try it.  Still remember my first time trying sushi and that completely changed my mind on raw fish forever.  🙂

                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                    • popvultureP
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                      Haha yeah I’d try the rare chicken in Japan. I’d probably have a pretty hard time with it, though — my brain is just straight-up trained to be skeeved out by that texture 😃

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                      • MattM
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                        @Alex:

                        @goosehd:

                        From the U.S. CDC: In fact, about 1 in every 25 packages of chicken at the grocery store are contaminated with Salmonella…

                        It’s fairly well documented that American meat processing is subpar. I’m not surprised that that is the case in the USA.

                        E.coli is often linked to leafy greens in American (and UK for that matter) supermarkets, does that mean we should stop eating salad too?

                        It’s funny, most of us know this but it just isn’t the same.  Seeing raw chicken is kind of like seeing a snake.  My brain is just trained to be grossed out by it.

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                        • popvultureP
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                          @Matt:

                          Seeing raw chicken is kind of like seeing a snake.

                          This made me howl hahahahaha

                          But yep, 100% re: salad. I'm well aware of that issue and eat like 2 big boxes of the pre-washed salad every week, never give it any additional washes, and never bat an eyelash.

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                          • OaktaviaO
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                            @popvulture:

                            Haha yeah I’d try the rare chicken in Japan. I’d probably have a pretty hard time with it, though — my brain is just straight-up trained to be skeeved out by that texture 😃

                            As an American, I am afraid to admit I was unaware humans could even eat raw chicken safely. I don't think I could handle it anywhere, anytime…I don't get out much  😃

                            It all comes from the fear instilled while we were young, like the other gents have stated.

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                            • GilesG
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                              I'll eat it any time I see it…..

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • mclaincauseyM
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                                Raw chicken just doesn't sound appealing to me, but then again, there was a time I would have said that about beef tartare or beef carpaccio and now I'm hungry having mentioned them. I am sure they tenderize somehow because otherwise it sounds like eating bland rubber that will make you sick.

                                I now am recalling Gordon Ramsey on one of those stupid cooking shows "EET'S RAW YA DONKAY… YA GUNNA KILL SOMEONE!!!" regarding undercooked chicken.

                                I do tend to cook my pork tinged pink in the center, which is a practice that used to be verboten, in part due to fears of trichinosis, which isn't super likely these days to my understanding.

                                Think it, be it.

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                                • popvultureP
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                                  @Giles:

                                  I'll eat it any time I see it…..

                                  Now you're just toying with us 😃

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                                  • goosehdG
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                                    I've had beef carpaccio and love it, but have never tried tartare…Is it good?

                                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                    • popvultureP
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                                      @mclaincausey:

                                      I do tend to cook my pork tinged pink in the center, which is a practice that used to be verboten, in part due to fears of trichinosis, which isn't super likely these days to my understanding.

                                      Totally true. One of the best culinary purchases I've ever made, if not the best, is a Thermapen. I remember cooking pork tenderloin and nailing it right at 145 for the first time. It was completely revelatory. I just thought about all the ropey, overdone stuff my parents had fed me in my youth and thought holy shit, we've been doing it all wrong haha…

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                                      • popvultureP
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                                        @goosehd:

                                        I've had beef carpaccio and love it, but have never tried tartare…Is it good?

                                        Oh it's SO good. With a quail egg, maybe some capers and some good toast. Damn I'm hungry now too.

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                                        • SeulS
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                                          No E.coli in a gin & tonic, is what I always say!

                                          Absolutely spiffin thread, by the way… Thank you so much for all the pics and intel!..

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                                          • motojoboboM
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                                            Great discussion of perceptions…

                                            RAW CHICKEN???? THAT IS GROSS!!!

                                            That would’ve been our likely reactions to raw fish 40 or so years ago. The sushi worldwide fad took care of that right?

                                            Any guesses which will be the first major european or US city to offer specialty raw chicken?  😃 😃 😃 😃
                                            Probably a hamburger shop across the street from some IH retailer!!!

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