Coronavirus (Covid-19) Discussion
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Got my second blast of moderna in a couple of weeks. You guys have got me real excited for that :-\
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My Moderna experience:
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shot 1: I didn't think anything had happened until 72 hours later when I finally figured out the… GI symptom that I had was not from something I ate
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shot 2: I was worthless for 24 hours. Extreme fatigue and sort of a flu-like queasiness
I have a high degree of confidence in and respect for these mRNA vaccines. Pretty fucking stupid that we have this windfall of protection in the USA that so many are not taking advantage of. We have some really self- (and else-) destructive nutjobs here.
It's funny you mention the GI stuff, I had the same thing! I also figured it was related to me breaking the diet during vaccine recovery!
I understand people being nervous about the vaccines. I was too. Heck, every time I hear about some new rare side effect, I start to freak out! I just trust that God's gonna do what He's gonna do and it's for the best.
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…amen @Paul9221!
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I was nervous about it as well,but in the end decided I’d rather wrestle with the vaccine than the virus.
That’s exactly how I felt. I was so anxious and paranoid until I got vaccinated, and I can’t even begin to describe how relieved I was after, and how nice it is to not have to be to worried about Delta. I just really hope more people get vaxed before some super hoss variant starts wreaking some new level of havoc. I don’t want to go back to anything resembling the previous situation.
But yep, my experience with Moderna mirror most people’s I’ve heard. 1st dose nothing much aside from a sore arm and mild fatigue, 2nd dose felt like a gnarly flu for two days, only without the fever.
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My wife (not an anti-vaxxer) was against this vaccine for all of the reasons we've all heard: it was developed too quickly, it's using new technology, etc. She sent me links to a few sites where people were discussing the side effects that they felt, or so they claimed. She was trying to disuade me from getting it, but not because she's crazy (well, maybe a little :D) but because she thought it best to avoid, and I appreciate that.
When I went in for the first vaccine, I was nervous. Reading all of the paperwork, my skeleton almost jumped out of my skin. "I can still walk away. Exit's right there…" I honestly can't recall the last time I had so many misgivings about something.
But what are you going to do, right? Like Jett said, you're pitting your odds against COVID, which we don't fully understand, or against the vaccine, which is new, but was created by countless scientists and specialists in the field.
My kids are going back to school in the fall. I have to go back to the office in September. If the kids don't bring it home, I'll catch it in some meeting about TPS reports. I'm not dying over TPS reports!
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I know the side effects of the vaccine are possibly misunderstood. But I do know that death from Covid is a truly horrific way to die and Long Covid is a complete bastard. So, I simply do not understand people not getting vaccinated, it is completely beyond my comprehension. I felt shit (seriously shit) for 24 hours, but IMHO, it's better than being dead or (and I quote) "breathlessness, headaches, cough, fatigue and cognitive impairment or ‘brain fog’. There is also emerging evidence that some people experience organ damage."
And surely, the more of the human population that gets the vaccination, the safer we all are.
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I got my second shot of the Astra Zeneca vaccine two days ago. Absolutely no discomfort nor pain whatsoever. There were 12 of us in a group of family friends, ages ranging from 19 to 67 and nobody reported ill effects.
Unfortunately my 5G reception hasn’t improved.
Happy to finally have it!
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problem is that I've read plenty of opinions from vaccinated people that are thinking they're invincible now and that they will not get it again or at all if they haven't. which is the biggest misunderstanding of receiving the vaccine..
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I know the side effects of the vaccine are possibly misunderstood. But I do know that death from Covid is a truly horrific way to die and Long Covid is a complete bastard.
Yeah–the idea of effectively drowning in air is indeed a horrifying thing to think about. Just gasping and being unable to oxygenate your organs no matter how hard you try. Even if you have a seemingly minor infection, lung scarring, heart muscle damage, and other long-term damage that may never heal 100%.... Do you want to be mildly inconvenienced or do you want to be on an oxygen tank, ventilator, or simply dead? Pretty easy decision for someone with half a brain.
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How about any reactions to Pfizer?
Anyone mixing their vaccines between first and second dose?
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if you got AZ as your first dose, you can select AZ, Moderna or Pfizer as your second dose. Though Moderna or Pfizer is recommended
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if you got Moderna or Pfizer as your first dose, you can interchange between the two for your second dose
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My brother-in-law was on a massive oxygen %age and he kept trying to rip the mask off "so he could breathe". He had to be knocked out and put on a ventilator (which involved a tracheotomy) to stop him panicking, his lungs collapsed etc etc etc. In the end, the doctors basically said, we need to turn off life support because if he does live his quality of life will be awful and he will likely require around the clock care. The ventilator was turned off, he lasted about 6 minutes.
Give me the fucking vax any fucking time…..
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@Omega Man the side effects that I had from the Pfizer vaccine were mild: I felt a bit ill and tired the evening after the first shot, and really dizzy for an hour almost immediately after the second. But nowhere near as bad as @mclaincausey is reporting for Moderna.
At this point the vaccines have been administered to hundreds of millions of people, and the side effects seem generally mild, with the exception of blood clots from AstraZeneca. I understand vaccine hesitancy, but they've had a pretty big trial now, so the risks strike me as being low. As @Giles pointed out, it sure beats the alternative…
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I received my second dose of Moderna last week. I didn't have any side effects for the first 12 hours, the point at which I went to bed. I woke up several times in the night with hot and cold flashes and my muscles and joints were a bit sore. I was also really thirsty. However, by the time I got up in the morning all the side effects had gone away except for a bit of soreness in my back muscles. The entire next day I felt a bit off, but nothing too extreme. I would compare it to a mild hangover.
I understand that vaccine is based on a new technology and there may be long term risks that are impossible to determine at the present moment. I also understand that the vaccine producers are absolved of all risk and have financial incentives that may not align with my health. However, Covid can definitely have horrible long term effects. For me, the risks associated with lung damage and brain fog far outweigh the risks associated with the vaccine.
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…yikes!
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10,991 < 608,000
Also, if I’m not mistaken, VAERS is based on self-reported “adverse effects” which of course include the body-aches, fever, soreness etc. that are widely reported.
Also, I’m not sure where your stats came from, but here’s a quote from CDC:
“Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 334 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 12, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,079 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.”
Quote found here:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
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Yep, echoing what many have said here, the potential side effects for me were way less of a worry than what I could run into actually contracting covid.
I'm 41, run several times a week, do yoga, and don't drink, so I wasn't particularly worried about being one of those unfortunate people who'd have to be hospitalized from acute symptoms. That said, you never know! The main thing was that I worried about the long term side effects after contracting Covid. I personally know three young, healthy people who had at the very bad things happen to them after contracting it. One was asymptomatic (literally had no idea he'd had it) but had horrible leg pain only to find out that he had massive clots in his legs and lungs. Another friend got it and had mild, manageable symptoms, but suffered a similar situation afterwards — pain, had to go to the ER, had massive clots, is now on blood thinners for a while and is being monitored. One less fortunate friend of my ex-girlfriend was a marathon runner in perfect health. Had a stroke, lived alone and sadly wasn't found until there was significant damage. She made it but has a long recovery ahead of her.
So, TLDR: potential covid grey area scared the shit out of me, so I was like "gimme the damn shot now."
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…had what they call COVID-19 back in June/July of last year. Kept a diary of the events that lasted 7 days though I was isolated in the house for 10. First 3 days felt like I was beaten with telephone books, muscular aches that were truly rough then tapering off with odd aches migrating around the body until day 7 when I felt like I had it licked. Thats when I had explosive sneezes which after thinking about it had me believing that's this virus knew I had it beat and was looking for a new host. Diabolical.
...never had a fever and never had any lung issues (it effects everyone differently). To be honest I've had food poisoning that was worse and I know close to a dozen folks who had it and survived, ( 99.8 % survivability rate ). I know a retired fireman who had heart inflammation after his innoculation but just one.
...I won't stick my head in the sand, and continue be very curious to see where this ends up next, new info all the time with obviously more to come as time passes.
...can't help but feel that from start to finish we're being f#*$ked with by a very sophisticated pack of grifters that have some kind of planned outcome. :o
