Coronavirus (Covid-19) Discussion
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The Norwegian govt announced a lockdown lite yesterday evening starting today and lasting two weeks. It was like having the car door shut on your fingers [emoji1]
Probs a good idea though. Infection has risen during xmas because of travel and gatherings, and with schools and workplaces starting up it was a potential shitshow. There is also a lot of concern about the new fast spreading variants.
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It down to the public behaviour.. that when the government arts…
At work.
Talking about tiers.Me. I said got be careful.. where you go
Him. I went to Liverpool tier 2. From tier 3 see my girlfriend.
Me. What if the police catch you.. your car insurance becomes invalid.
Him. How they gonna know am not speeding.
Me. When you travel on the motorway there are cameras they monitor everything.. that the reason
It a mess in the first place not helping at..Here a another one
Saturday doing mine father shopping.. the workers at Morrisons
Known them for quite long time. Came over to me said it my birthday soon am going Liverpool to
enjoy.I look at her I said I had a lockdown birthday so did my son, didn’t go out.
Can’t you do it... she said come on give me a break.A lady test positive went for a driving lesson and went pick the kids up from
Primary school as normal
Said I can’t afford to be self-isolate.I was shock to hear this from my wife...
It comes down to individual, that it a mess...
People don’t listen...
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@Seul as someone interested in equality, these might interest you…
Frightening...chips that can be programmed and monitored. This was the reason the American health care act (Obamacare) V1 was rejected as it included the inclusion of a programmable chip
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55548670
This is weird, the authors obviously don't understand that you can't use The Mental Health Act 83 to make treatment of a physical condition. The fact that the manufacturers of the Oxford vaccine want it to be mandatory by force of detention is Orwellian fucking frightening
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I'm not sure why you're tagging me, Stuart, but I am glad that the vaccine isn't mandatory (nor is it here in Belgium)… Of course, survey showed 70+% of people here are willing to be vaccinated... I might be in favour of it being mandatory if less than 50% of the population was willing to do it...
Those monitorable chips can suck my ball though...
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My wife got her second round of the vaccine earlier this week. So far Bill Gates hasn't taken over control of her mind….
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So far Bill Gates hasn't taken over control of her mind….
She would say that though
Ha! I've known her long enough. I'd probably notice.
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I am in the US and got my first dose of the Moderna vaccine yesterday. I can practically feel the power of millions of mini Bill Gateses running though my body, plus I’ve suddenly become an expert at Excel. In seriousness though….
I am a first responder, which is why I am able to get it so early. Otherwise, I think it would be a long time before someone in my age range who is otherwise healthy would be able to get it.
The shot itself is to the upper arm. It’s pretty sore today, but that’s normal for intramuscular injections (trust me on that). I would have preferred Pfizer to Moderna because of a slightly higher efficacy and smaller dose, but I’ll take what I can get.
In this country, the virus is running rampant, and it seems like the eventuality is that you’ll either get it or get vaccinated. I chose the latter. I did have a few misgivings at first, but reading about it as well as talking to some scientifically minded friends convinced me that this was the right way to go.
One of my biggest concerns is the possibility of long term effects or side effects, but I think that is true both of the virus and the vaccine. The virus seems as though it could potentially be more damaging in the long run, but we just don’t know since it’s only been in humans for about a year.
Science saved me one before. I am a cancer survivor. The drugs I got then which ultimately cured me also came with the possibility of long term side effects. For instance, my chances of getting leukemia are higher than that of the average person. But I wasn’t going to not get chemo to avoid that chance down the road.
The vaccine itself is clear or colorless. I don’t know if that was by design or just how it happened to be. I think the general public is under the impression that all drugs are clear or white, and only have color added for perception or branding (which is to say here at least ibuprofen is generally brown, otc liquid cold medications are dyed, etc.), but that is not the case. One of the drugs I got during chemo was cherry Koolaid red. I’d read about this beforehand, but it was still a little disconcerting to see .5L of red go directly into my veins via an IV. I also saw others in the infusion center get drugs that were electric blue or ink black. I think public perception will be better knowing this one is clear. It might be harder to convince people it’s safe if it were brown or green or something.
I hope you will consider getting vaccinated when it becomes available to you, wherever you are. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to ask. -
@neversummer Thank you very much for taking the time to share your experience, knowledge and personal history. That is valuable stuff.
The vaccine roll out is just starting in Norway and I’m a long way down the list. Happily I live in an area that has enjoyed relatively low infection rates. That can change quickly of course. Sitting tight until I get the jab.
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I would have preferred Pfizer to Moderna because of a slightly higher efficacy and smaller dose, but I’ll take what I can get.
How will this work in the US? I assume all vaccines are covered by health insurance, so you get what you can when you can? I appreciate you are not in the same boat as the average punter will be when this is rolled out over the coming months..
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@neversummer Great write up. I am in health care and just got my first dose of Moderna this afternoon. I actually preferred the moderna, but I have a lot of colleagues that wanted Pfizer. Who knows what will be best in the long run?Just looking forward to getting back to some sort of normal.
