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    IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    • profdbrkP
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      Even though @neph93 so accurately describes the different characteristics of the denims and dyes, it has taken me awhile personally to figure what he has been saying–-and what the IH crew makes so clear---and how to read the numbers.

      Who knew that jeans could be such an interesting and delightful ordeal?

      But once you get the fit and the sizing worked out---add some wear (particularly softening)--- it's like having that baseball glove from back then.  It's not a glove, it's just your hand.  For me this process has been a bit costly---because I am apparently a slow learner and because I lost a ton of weight and needed a few new pair to make the adjustment.

      I bought 888S-21s as tight in the waist as I could happily button because it really is going to stretch, just like they tell us.  And the 25oz less so in all respects.  On my old body the 888 is the most flattering fit, at least my wife thinks so.  But I like more old school everything and so personally prefer the straighter 634.  I've been lucky enough to try all the IH fits over time (except the Boss, I think I'm too short) and while that's an expensive experiment, it might be the only way to really know what works best for you.  I think it's been worth every dime to find out.

      Qui plume a, guerre a. 不完全さは美しさ,です狂気は天才です

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        These photos are from March but I thought I'd jump in to eventually track my progress and express how much I enjoy and appreciate the 888s. These are my second pair of IH, the first being the 634s. The 888s have been a great exploration into a completely different kind of fit. Loving these.

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        • neph93N
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          @Chop that is a brilliant demonstration of the versatility of the 888 cut. It can be worn so many different ways, and styled and sized to suit many different tastes and body types. These look really good.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

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            @neph93:

            @Chop that is a brilliant demonstration of the versatility of the 888 cut. It can be worn so many different ways, and styled and sized to suit many different tastes and body types. These look really good.

            Thanks man!! Much appreciated.

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            • konadogK
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              Apologies if this question has been asked many times prior.  I tried these on today at SE and loved the fit.  I tried the 34 and could button the top button but it was definitely snug - like if it didn’t stretch and inch and stay that way they would likely be uncomfortable.  The store suggested I go with a 36 but didn’t have a pair in the store.

              I really liked the proportions on the 34 I tried.  Should I go with the 34 and hope the waist stretches an inch and stays that way?  Or should I wait for a restock of the 35?  Or buy the 36 in stock here and hot soak if it’s a bit too roomy?

              Thanks.

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              • neph93N
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                @konadog:

                I really liked the proportions on the 34 I tried.  Should I go with the 34 and hope the waist stretches an inch and stays that way?  Or should I wait for a restock of the 35?  Or buy the 36 in stock here and hot soak if it’s a bit too roomy?

                The 21oz stretches readily. If it were me I would go with that.

                “Some of those that work forces
                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                • konadogK
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                  @neph93:

                  @konadog:

                  I really liked the proportions on the 34 I tried.  Should I go with the 34 and hope the waist stretches an inch and stays that way?  Or should I wait for a restock of the 35?  Or buy the 36 in stock here and hot soak if it’s a bit too roomy?

                  The 21oz stretches readily. If it were me I would go with that.

                  so go with the 34?

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                  • Paul9221P
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                    You'll easily get an inch in the waist.  Probably within a few days.

                    Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                      But if /when you wash them they will go back to some degree.

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                      • zhivagoZ
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                        I'd wait till the 35 comes in, but that's just me. The 21oz has a lot of stretch for sure but if a 34 is too tight to get the top button done up, a inch isn't likely going to be enough to enjoy what is designed to be a very comfortable cut

                        Zhivago

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                        G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

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                        • Paul9221P
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                          @zhivago:

                          I'd wait till the 35 comes in, but that's just me. The 21oz has a lot of stretch for sure but if a 34 is too tight to get the top button done up, a inch isn't likely going to be enough to enjoy what is designed to be a very comfortable cut

                          Hrmm, I think he wrote that he could button but it was snug.  That's the description of a great fit IMO. If it's not a little snug on the initial wear, you probably should've sized down.  Unless you're looking for a loose fit, that is.

                          Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                          • zhivagoZ
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                            @Paul9221:

                            @zhivago:

                            I'd wait till the 35 comes in, but that's just me. The 21oz has a lot of stretch for sure but if a 34 is too tight to get the top button done up, a inch isn't likely going to be enough to enjoy what is designed to be a very comfortable cut

                            Hrmm, I think he wrote that he could button but it was snug.  That's the description of a great fit IMO. If it's not a little snug on the initial wear, you probably should've sized down.  Unless you're looking for a loose fit, that is.

                            Ooops, you are correct. My bad. If it's snug but buttonable I'd say go for the 34. 21oz has plenty of stretch to it!

                            Zhivago

                            MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

                            G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

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                            • konadogK
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                              @Paul9221:

                              @zhivago:

                              I'd wait till the 35 comes in, but that's just me. The 21oz has a lot of stretch for sure but if a 34 is too tight to get the top button done up, a inch isn't likely going to be enough to enjoy what is designed to be a very comfortable cut

                              Hrmm, I think he wrote that he could button but it was snug.  That's the description of a great fit IMO. If it's not a little snug on the initial wear, you probably should've sized down.  Unless you're looking for a loose fit, that is.

                              Correct.  On the 34s I could button the top button.  It was snug, but not painful.  If it stretches one inch it will work for me.  And if after I wash it and it shrinks back to original but then stretches back to the one inch limit after I wear it then I will buy the 34s.  Otherwise I will wait for the 35s.

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                                Go for the 34, for sure.

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                                • GilesG
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                                  This is what the webpage says….

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    @konadog:

                                    If it stretches one inch it will work for me.  And if after I wash it and it shrinks back to original but then stretches back to the one inch limit after I wear it then I will buy the 34s.

                                    This is what will happen. The 34’s are correct for you.

                                    “Some of those that work forces
                                    Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                    • konadogK
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                                      @neph93:

                                      @konadog:

                                      If it stretches one inch it will work for me.  And if after I wash it and it shrinks back to original but then stretches back to the one inch limit after I wear it then I will buy the 34s.

                                      This is what will happen. The 34’s are correct for you.

                                      Thanks again for the help of the forum.  I made the purchase and will post pics once I get them back from Self Edge's hemming service.

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                                      • SoleampS
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                                        Hi all, I have another quick question. My current 888s that I have been wearing pretty exclusively for months have developed a rip/split on the inside edge of the back pocket. I thought this was pretty unusual since I don’t keep anything in the back pockets (I can’t take sitting on a wallet anymore). Has anyone else had this/seen this before and should I be concerned about it? 

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                                        • neph93N
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                                          Doesn't really look like much of an issue to me based on those photo's. Based on the first pic it is possible that the constructional stitching has torn a strand of the warp, in which case that can be considered normal wear and tear. The second pic doesn't look unusual for an area where constructional stitching is coming together. It will disrupt and damage the weave by its nature. I can't imagine it will spread based on these pics. @Chesson might be able to shed some more light on it?

                                          If you are concerned that it is a QC issue then you should contact the retailer directly.

                                          “Some of those that work forces
                                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                          • ChessonC
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                                            Hi @Soleamp

                                            I wouldn't be too concerned about this at the moment, I would keep an eye on it though. Short of running a through hand stitches in the areas that you've shown there is not much that we could suggest. Drop us an email if it gets worse, we may be able to offer a repair at a later date.

                                            IG: @alexchesson_

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