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IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    chrikelnel
    Haraki san Student
    Joined: 20 Apr 2020

    @neph93:

    @chrikelnel:

    Can I expect an inch of stretch in the waist and no shrinkage for certain washing on cold?

    You will get at least one inch of stretch from
    a W33 in 21oz denim. You can then wash them  in 90C water and they still won’t shrink past starting measurements.

    Thanks! Ended up going with a 33 from R&H because they're out of stock here. This will be my first pair of Iron Hearts and I can't wait.

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      neph93
      見習いボス
      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

      @chrikelnel:

      Thanks! Ended up going with a 33 from R&H because they're out of stock here. This will be my first pair of Iron Hearts and I can't wait.

      Congratulations! Let us know how you get on.

      «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
      We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

      • Dame Vera Lynn
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        profdbrk
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 30 Jul 2018

        Even though @neph93 so accurately describes the different characteristics of the denims and dyes, it has taken me awhile personally to figure what he has been saying–-and what the IH crew makes so clear---and how to read the numbers.

        Who knew that jeans could be such an interesting and delightful ordeal?

        But once you get the fit and the sizing worked out---add some wear (particularly softening)--- it's like having that baseball glove from back then.  It's not a glove, it's just your hand.  For me this process has been a bit costly---because I am apparently a slow learner and because I lost a ton of weight and needed a few new pair to make the adjustment.

        I bought 888S-21s as tight in the waist as I could happily button because it really is going to stretch, just like they tell us.  And the 25oz less so in all respects.  On my old body the 888 is the most flattering fit, at least my wife thinks so.  But I like more old school everything and so personally prefer the straighter 634.  I've been lucky enough to try all the IH fits over time (except the Boss, I think I'm too short) and while that's an expensive experiment, it might be the only way to really know what works best for you.  I think it's been worth every dime to find out.

        Qui plume a, guerre a. 不完全さは美しさ,です狂気は天才です

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          Chop
          Joined: 2 Feb 2020

          These photos are from March but I thought I'd jump in to eventually track my progress and express how much I enjoy and appreciate the 888s. These are my second pair of IH, the first being the 634s. The 888s have been a great exploration into a completely different kind of fit. Loving these.

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            neph93
            見習いボス
            Joined: 18 Aug 2014

            @Chop that is a brilliant demonstration of the versatility of the 888 cut. It can be worn so many different ways, and styled and sized to suit many different tastes and body types. These look really good.

            «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

            • Dame Vera Lynn
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              Chop
              Joined: 2 Feb 2020

              @neph93:

              @Chop that is a brilliant demonstration of the versatility of the 888 cut. It can be worn so many different ways, and styled and sized to suit many different tastes and body types. These look really good.

              Thanks man!! Much appreciated.

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                konadog
                Raw and Unwashed
                Joined: 9 Dec 2018

                Apologies if this question has been asked many times prior.  I tried these on today at SE and loved the fit.  I tried the 34 and could button the top button but it was definitely snug - like if it didn’t stretch and inch and stay that way they would likely be uncomfortable.  The store suggested I go with a 36 but didn’t have a pair in the store.

                I really liked the proportions on the 34 I tried.  Should I go with the 34 and hope the waist stretches an inch and stays that way?  Or should I wait for a restock of the 35?  Or buy the 36 in stock here and hot soak if it’s a bit too roomy?

                Thanks.

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                  neph93
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                  @konadog:

                  I really liked the proportions on the 34 I tried.  Should I go with the 34 and hope the waist stretches an inch and stays that way?  Or should I wait for a restock of the 35?  Or buy the 36 in stock here and hot soak if it’s a bit too roomy?

                  The 21oz stretches readily. If it were me I would go with that.

                  «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                  We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                  • Dame Vera Lynn
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                    konadog
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 9 Dec 2018

                    @neph93:

                    @konadog:

                    I really liked the proportions on the 34 I tried.  Should I go with the 34 and hope the waist stretches an inch and stays that way?  Or should I wait for a restock of the 35?  Or buy the 36 in stock here and hot soak if it’s a bit too roomy?

                    The 21oz stretches readily. If it were me I would go with that.

                    so go with the 34?

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                      Paul9221
                      啓蒙家
                      Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                      You'll easily get an inch in the waist.  Probably within a few days.

                      Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                        Jett129
                        見習いボス
                        Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                        But if /when you wash them they will go back to some degree.

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                          zhivago
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 17 Aug 2010

                          I'd wait till the 35 comes in, but that's just me. The 21oz has a lot of stretch for sure but if a 34 is too tight to get the top button done up, a inch isn't likely going to be enough to enjoy what is designed to be a very comfortable cut

                          Zhivago

                          MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

                          G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

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                            Paul9221
                            啓蒙家
                            Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                            @zhivago:

                            I'd wait till the 35 comes in, but that's just me. The 21oz has a lot of stretch for sure but if a 34 is too tight to get the top button done up, a inch isn't likely going to be enough to enjoy what is designed to be a very comfortable cut

                            Hrmm, I think he wrote that he could button but it was snug.  That's the description of a great fit IMO. If it's not a little snug on the initial wear, you probably should've sized down.  Unless you're looking for a loose fit, that is.

                            Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                              zhivago
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 17 Aug 2010

                              @Paul9221:

                              @zhivago:

                              I'd wait till the 35 comes in, but that's just me. The 21oz has a lot of stretch for sure but if a 34 is too tight to get the top button done up, a inch isn't likely going to be enough to enjoy what is designed to be a very comfortable cut

                              Hrmm, I think he wrote that he could button but it was snug.  That's the description of a great fit IMO. If it's not a little snug on the initial wear, you probably should've sized down.  Unless you're looking for a loose fit, that is.

                              Ooops, you are correct. My bad. If it's snug but buttonable I'd say go for the 34. 21oz has plenty of stretch to it!

                              Zhivago

                              MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

                              G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

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                                konadog
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                Joined: 9 Dec 2018

                                @Paul9221:

                                @zhivago:

                                I'd wait till the 35 comes in, but that's just me. The 21oz has a lot of stretch for sure but if a 34 is too tight to get the top button done up, a inch isn't likely going to be enough to enjoy what is designed to be a very comfortable cut

                                Hrmm, I think he wrote that he could button but it was snug.  That's the description of a great fit IMO. If it's not a little snug on the initial wear, you probably should've sized down.  Unless you're looking for a loose fit, that is.

                                Correct.  On the 34s I could button the top button.  It was snug, but not painful.  If it stretches one inch it will work for me.  And if after I wash it and it shrinks back to original but then stretches back to the one inch limit after I wear it then I will buy the 34s.  Otherwise I will wait for the 35s.

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                                  sabergirl
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                                  Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                                  Go for the 34, for sure.

                                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                                  • GilesG
                                    Giles
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                    This is what the webpage says….

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      neph93
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                                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                      @konadog:

                                      If it stretches one inch it will work for me.  And if after I wash it and it shrinks back to original but then stretches back to the one inch limit after I wear it then I will buy the 34s.

                                      This is what will happen. The 34’s are correct for you.

                                      «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                      We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                                      • Dame Vera Lynn
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                                        konadog
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 9 Dec 2018

                                        @neph93:

                                        @konadog:

                                        If it stretches one inch it will work for me.  And if after I wash it and it shrinks back to original but then stretches back to the one inch limit after I wear it then I will buy the 34s.

                                        This is what will happen. The 34’s are correct for you.

                                        Thanks again for the help of the forum.  I made the purchase and will post pics once I get them back from Self Edge's hemming service.

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                                        • SoleampS
                                          Soleamp
                                          Raw and Unwashed
                                          Joined: 30 Aug 2020

                                          Hi all, I have another quick question. My current 888s that I have been wearing pretty exclusively for months have developed a rip/split on the inside edge of the back pocket. I thought this was pretty unusual since I don’t keep anything in the back pockets (I can’t take sitting on a wallet anymore). Has anyone else had this/seen this before and should I be concerned about it? 

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