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    • mclaincauseyM
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      @Megatron1505:

      ^ You expend far too much time and effort considering the minutiae of everything McL.

      Actually, I think I'm the one pushing the simplest theory here: Red Wing is popular because people like them, and because they are popular they can charge what the market will bear for their products. Occam would approve of this versus conspiracy theories about them cornering the market on boots and somehow rigging an entire industry.

      Think it, be it.

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        I think I may not have been clear enough, I'm not saying they have the whole boot game rigged, nor did I claim so. They do have everything to do with their product on lock though, as even the franchise's have to adhere to countless ways to "properly sell" RWs product. If you circumvent their method, they won't stand behind their product. Their business model is debt based though, as is the majority of every market. It's here where everything meets that my objections begin. RW is not a healthy functioning business, but most aren't anymore. Prosperity should never be measured by how far one can leverage the future. If my descriptors lacked accuracy, we wouldn't have a global banking system based on these precepts in control of trade and monetary systems. Corporate debt has become the greatest arm of passing this off to the populace, we even have an entire weekend once a year to make sure these debts get squared at our expense. It's not dirty players, it's a dirty game by design.

        Bourbon: because living in Kentucky just makes you want to drink

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        • summ3rhaysS
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          @Megatron1505:

          Case in point:

          Whites Bounty Hunters made with a choice of Chromexcel, dress or oiled leather with a huge variety of sole and hardware configurations - £220 plus £50 shipping.

          Red Wing Beckmans - £285

          Why?

          Is this a european thing?  Beckmans are $300 here and widely available.  I wouldn't pay more for Beckman's than Whites, but honestly I'd never even heard about Whites until I started on this forum.

          IG: summ3rhays & Indigobleed

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          • Megatron1505M
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            It might even be specifically a UK thing.

            Even so $300 for Beckmans or $380 to $400 for SD's ?

            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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            • mclaincauseyM
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              Unpopular opinion: while I may not admire the product, I admire the company:

              http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-12/red-wing-makes-made-in-usa-pay-plans-to-add-125-dealerships.html

              Think it, be it.

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              • Finn666F
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                @Megatron1505:

                Rafa, as a half kraut, half yank you are officially the worlds most humourless person  😛

                😉 great one Gav(e)… 😉

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                • 4c4
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                  @mclaincausey:

                  RW is going to be a gateway boot for a lot of White's, Wesco, Nick's, OSB, and Viberg owners, I am sure.

                  ^ Yes

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                  • natehateN
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                    redwings bread and butter is still work boots
                    these fashion boots is just a weekend hobby

                    don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                      @4c:

                      @mclaincausey:

                      RW is going to be a gateway boot for a lot of White's, Wesco, Nick's, OSB, and Viberg owners, I am sure.

                      ^ Yes

                      I have to agree.  RW is my trashing around boots.  I tend to baby my Wescos (which I shouldn't be  :-[….)

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                      • Megatron1505M
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                        A gateway that is now the same price in some instances, and more expensive in others  😉

                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          I wish heroin were as cheap as pot…

                          Think it, be it.

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                          • Megatron1505M
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                            That makes no sense at all.

                            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                            • SeulS
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                              As a misanthropist, I can only agree  with McLain 😎

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                              • Megatron1505M
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                                If you're talking about the eradication of heroin users then I could not agree more, come to my hood and I'll show you why. Without context the statement appears meaningless though.

                                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                • SeulS
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                                  Nah just talking about the eradication of humanity… Business as usual here...

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                                  • mclaincauseyM
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                                    It wasn't supposed to make sense, it was a (admittedly bad) joke about gateway drugs!

                                    Think it, be it.

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                                    • Megatron1505M
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                                      Now I get you Mac, I'm a bit slow today (and most other days)  😉

                                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                        @Seul:

                                        Nah just talking about the eradication of humanity… Business as usual here...

                                        Don't worry, we'll take care of that all on our own, soon enough, at the rate we're going.

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                                        • SeulS
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                                          I hate being tagged by people here.

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            Yeah sorry

                                            @Seul

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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