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    • ChrisC
      Chris
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      True, even the regular stuff varies a lot.  Mine were more of a crapshoot because of the green weft, I think.  On SuFu, there was a guy who had the next size up, and his shrank down to nearly identical dimensions as mine.  Oh well, such is life…

      And I feel obligated to mention that this is one of the nice things about Iron Heart; consistency.  A pair from four years ago is going to be the same as a pair from four days ago.

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      • SeulS
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        Some shrink from tagged size, some to tagged size. Differs from lot to lot… That's all I know... Awaiting beautiful_freak's expertise input  🙂

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        • BlackheartB
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          IH is consistent, only pair I have that are too small are my 634S, I got them in a 32 waist and planned to
          stretch them to a 33 but they never stretched. Samurai uses raw denim and you never know what will
          happen when it hits water…!

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          • ChrisC
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            True, Sanforized denim is inherently more consistent than shrink to fit, but even IH's STF offerings don't vary like Samurai denim.

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            • SeulS
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              @Chris:

              And I feel obligated to mention that this is one of the nice things about Iron Heart; consistency.

              It's not 100 % but it comes pretty close!..

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              • BlackheartB
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                I would think the weave would have something to do with the amount of shrinkage, correct me if I'm wrong…

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                • ChrisC
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                  I'm nowhere near an expert, but I think you're right, Blackheart.  Seems like the tighter woven denims shrink and stretch less.  I think that's why shrinkage goes down as weight goes up; the weave tension is higher by necessity in the heavier weight stuff.

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                  • GilesG
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                    Spoiler…..Weave tension in Iron Heart 21oz selvedge is very low......

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • Megatron1505M
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                      Hence far more breathable, and much softer than Samurai 21oz VX denim  😉

                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                      • BrownIconB
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                        imo, tightness & type of of weave are just 2 of the factors.  kind of cotton used & post-loom/finishing process involved also affects denim behavior pertaining to shrink/stretch.

                        IH uses same [maybe a couple of mills] for their jeans.  hence, the consistency.
                        Samurai got several__ just to maintain the constant change & variety of denim in their offerings.

                        http://3rdiconfess.tumblr.com

                        To a denimhead, the journey itself is the destination

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                        • BrownIconB
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                          @Megatron1505:

                          Hence far more breathable, and much softer than Samurai 21oz VX denim  😉

                          correct me [any1] if i'm wrong,  but the softness comes from the long sliver of the Zimbabwean cotton fibers & thickness/gauge of the yarns used.

                          http://3rdiconfess.tumblr.com

                          To a denimhead, the journey itself is the destination

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                          • ChrisC
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                            @Giles:

                            Spoiler…..Weave tension in Iron Heart 21oz selvedge is very low......

                            Like I said, I'm not an expert by any means.:)  No surprise my conjecture blows.

                            And I expect you're right, BrownIcon, though as we've seen, my view is suspect at best.

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                            • Megatron1505M
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                              Nope, you're right  🙂 (I think)

                              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                              • BlackheartB
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                                You're right on the mark Brown, longer fibers do make them softer which is why the SR denim is my
                                favorite of all time. Samurai does weave tight and at first the denim is very abrasive, especially on my 510's.

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                                • GilesG
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                                  The long staple cotton allows us to weave at a low tension and achieve the weight whilst not compromising the integrity of the weave…

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • BlackheartB
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                                    That's why IH is the perfect denim, heavy, soft and retains it's size or very close to it.

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                                    • ALEX1976A
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                                      @Blackheart:

                                      That's why IH is the perfect denim…

                                      amen

                                      i think SAMURAI is more a JOKE DENIM or is more happy to try out new things…like a surprise bag;-)

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                                      • BlackheartB
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                                        Samurai likes to experiment Alex, that's for sure! Nothing wrong with that either but when you're spending
                                        that kind of money on jeans you want them to fit and not shrink beyond tag size to the point where they're
                                        unwearable. IH is consistent and true to weight.

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                                        • ALEX1976A
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                                          yeah right blackheart.
                                          they made great fabric…..love my s 510

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                                          • BlackheartB
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                                            Wish mine fit as good as yours do Alex! 🙂

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