Samurai Jeans
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Yeah, it was disappointing. In the very first wash, they went from a 13" thigh to12". Unfortunately for me, my thighs are 24", so they've been super tight from day one. Not the fit you expect from the 5000 cut. I love the denim and the details though. At some point I'll buy another pair of Samurai, I'm sure.
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My 510XX's shrunk a lot on the waist, I got a 33 and after the first wash they went down to about a 31 1/2.
I love the 21/23 oz. denim, very heavy but they never stretched back out. I don't wear them at all anymore.
I wear my 5000VX 24/27 oz. all the time, they're a 34 waist and shrunk about a half inch after the first wash
and are the same after the second wash. I'll definitely get another pair of Samurai's down the line too, that
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Samurai's denim varies so much, my S5000VX 21oz took around 6 full washes to get all the shrinkage out of them, yet I had some S5000BK that stayed exactly the same size after an initial hot soak, same for my 710's :-\
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Very true Mega, they use so many different denims and they all shrink differently…Both my pairs were washed
in cold water to avoid a lot of shrinking but the 510's really shrunk unfortunately.
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True, even the regular stuff varies a lot. Mine were more of a crapshoot because of the green weft, I think. On SuFu, there was a guy who had the next size up, and his shrank down to nearly identical dimensions as mine. Oh well, such is life…
And I feel obligated to mention that this is one of the nice things about Iron Heart; consistency. A pair from four years ago is going to be the same as a pair from four days ago.
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IH is consistent, only pair I have that are too small are my 634S, I got them in a 32 waist and planned to
stretch them to a 33 but they never stretched. Samurai uses raw denim and you never know what will
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True, Sanforized denim is inherently more consistent than shrink to fit, but even IH's STF offerings don't vary like Samurai denim.
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I would think the weave would have something to do with the amount of shrinkage, correct me if I'm wrong…
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I'm nowhere near an expert, but I think you're right, Blackheart. Seems like the tighter woven denims shrink and stretch less. I think that's why shrinkage goes down as weight goes up; the weave tension is higher by necessity in the heavier weight stuff.
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Hence far more breathable, and much softer than Samurai 21oz VX denim
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imo, tightness & type of of weave are just 2 of the factors. kind of cotton used & post-loom/finishing process involved also affects denim behavior pertaining to shrink/stretch.
IH uses same [maybe a couple of mills] for their jeans. hence, the consistency.
Samurai got several__ just to maintain the constant change & variety of denim in their offerings. -
Hence far more breathable, and much softer than Samurai 21oz VX denim
correct me [any1] if i'm wrong, but the softness comes from the long sliver of the Zimbabwean cotton fibers & thickness/gauge of the yarns used.
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Spoiler…..Weave tension in Iron Heart 21oz selvedge is very low......
Like I said, I'm not an expert by any means.:) No surprise my conjecture blows.
And I expect you're right, BrownIcon, though as we've seen, my view is suspect at best.
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Nope, you're right
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You're right on the mark Brown, longer fibers do make them softer which is why the SR denim is my
favorite of all time. Samurai does weave tight and at first the denim is very abrasive, especially on my 510's. -
That's why IH is the perfect denim, heavy, soft and retains it's size or very close to it.
