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    • BlackheartB
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      Those look really good Chris, I know what you mean about the fit though, I have the same issue with a
      pair of mine.

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      • ChrisC
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        Yeah, it was disappointing.  In the very first wash, they went from a 13" thigh to12".  Unfortunately for me, my thighs are 24", so they've been super tight from day one.  Not the fit you expect from the 5000 cut.  I love the denim and the details though.  At some point I'll buy another pair of Samurai, I'm sure.

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        • BlackheartB
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          My 510XX's shrunk a lot on the waist, I got a 33 and after the first wash they went down to about a 31 1/2.
          I love the 21/23 oz. denim, very heavy but they never stretched back out. I don't wear them at all anymore.
          I wear my 5000VX 24/27 oz. all the time, they're a 34 waist and shrunk about a half inch after the first wash
          and are the same after the second wash. I'll definitely get another pair of Samurai's down the line too, that
          5000VX fit is my fave.

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          • Megatron1505M
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            Samurai's denim varies so much, my S5000VX 21oz took around 6 full washes to get all the shrinkage out of them, yet I had some S5000BK that stayed exactly the same size after an initial hot soak, same for my 710's  :-\

            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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            • BlackheartB
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              Very true Mega, they use so many different denims and they all shrink differently…Both my pairs were washed
              in cold water to avoid a lot of shrinking but the 510's really shrunk unfortunately. 😞

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              • ChrisC
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                True, even the regular stuff varies a lot.  Mine were more of a crapshoot because of the green weft, I think.  On SuFu, there was a guy who had the next size up, and his shrank down to nearly identical dimensions as mine.  Oh well, such is life…

                And I feel obligated to mention that this is one of the nice things about Iron Heart; consistency.  A pair from four years ago is going to be the same as a pair from four days ago.

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                • SeulS
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                  Some shrink from tagged size, some to tagged size. Differs from lot to lot… That's all I know... Awaiting beautiful_freak's expertise input  🙂

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                  • BlackheartB
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                    IH is consistent, only pair I have that are too small are my 634S, I got them in a 32 waist and planned to
                    stretch them to a 33 but they never stretched. Samurai uses raw denim and you never know what will
                    happen when it hits water…!

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                    • ChrisC
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                      True, Sanforized denim is inherently more consistent than shrink to fit, but even IH's STF offerings don't vary like Samurai denim.

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                      • SeulS
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                        @Chris:

                        And I feel obligated to mention that this is one of the nice things about Iron Heart; consistency.

                        It's not 100 % but it comes pretty close!..

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                        • BlackheartB
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                          I would think the weave would have something to do with the amount of shrinkage, correct me if I'm wrong…

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                          • ChrisC
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                            I'm nowhere near an expert, but I think you're right, Blackheart.  Seems like the tighter woven denims shrink and stretch less.  I think that's why shrinkage goes down as weight goes up; the weave tension is higher by necessity in the heavier weight stuff.

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                            • GilesG
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                              Spoiler…..Weave tension in Iron Heart 21oz selvedge is very low......

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • Megatron1505M
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                                Hence far more breathable, and much softer than Samurai 21oz VX denim  😉

                                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                • BrownIconB
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                                  imo, tightness & type of of weave are just 2 of the factors.  kind of cotton used & post-loom/finishing process involved also affects denim behavior pertaining to shrink/stretch.

                                  IH uses same [maybe a couple of mills] for their jeans.  hence, the consistency.
                                  Samurai got several__ just to maintain the constant change & variety of denim in their offerings.

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                                  To a denimhead, the journey itself is the destination

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                                  • BrownIconB
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                                    @Megatron1505:

                                    Hence far more breathable, and much softer than Samurai 21oz VX denim  😉

                                    correct me [any1] if i'm wrong,  but the softness comes from the long sliver of the Zimbabwean cotton fibers & thickness/gauge of the yarns used.

                                    http://3rdiconfess.tumblr.com

                                    To a denimhead, the journey itself is the destination

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                                    • ChrisC
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                                      @Giles:

                                      Spoiler…..Weave tension in Iron Heart 21oz selvedge is very low......

                                      Like I said, I'm not an expert by any means.:)  No surprise my conjecture blows.

                                      And I expect you're right, BrownIcon, though as we've seen, my view is suspect at best.

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                                      • Megatron1505M
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                                        Nope, you're right  🙂 (I think)

                                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                        • BlackheartB
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                                          You're right on the mark Brown, longer fibers do make them softer which is why the SR denim is my
                                          favorite of all time. Samurai does weave tight and at first the denim is very abrasive, especially on my 510's.

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            The long staple cotton allows us to weave at a low tension and achieve the weight whilst not compromising the integrity of the weave…

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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